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Poll: What number would make you say "I am financially independent"?

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Re: Poll: What number would make you say "I am financially independent"?

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500,000 invested intelligently would give you a yield where you could expect a decent income to live upon, so if you are clever enough that should be enough. Plus it would give you the freedom you wish for, plus a little incentive to do "something" as its not a crazy amount of money....

Incidentally, that's the number George Soros had in mind when he decided to go into finance to support his dream of being a philosopher. He ended up making a little more than that, however.

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To put it into perspective here's Felix Dennis's wealth classification table:

  £1m-£2m:         The comfortable poor
  £2m-£5m:         The comfortably off
  £5m-£15m:        The comfortably wealthy
  £15m-£40m:       The lesser rich
  £40m-£75m:       The comfortably rich
  £75m-£100m:      The rich
  £100m-£200m:     The seriously rich
  £200m-£400m:     The truly rich
  £400m-£999m:     The filthy rich
  More than £999m: The super rich
http://www.businesswings.co.uk/articles/Felix-Dennis

Re: Poll: What number would make you say "I am financially independent"?

#13
post #4

500,000 invested intelligently would give you a yield where you could expect a decent income to live upon, so if you are clever enough that should be enough. Plus it would give you the freedom you wish for, plus a little incentive to do "something" as its not a crazy amount of money....

Incidentally, that's the number George Soros had in mind when he decided to go into finance to support his dream of being a philosopher. He ended up making a little more than that, however.

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Re: Poll: What number would make you say "I am financially independent"?

#14
post #4

500,000 invested intelligently would give you a yield where you could expect a decent income to live upon, so if you are clever enough that should be enough. Plus it would give you the freedom you wish for, plus a little incentive to do "something" as its not a crazy amount of money....

Incidentally, that's the number George Soros had in mind when he decided to go into finance to support his dream of being a philosopher. He ended up making a little more than that, however.

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Re: Poll: What number would make you say "I am financially independent"?

#15
post #5

For me, it is 10M USD considering where I live, what I do and what my interests are.

Wow, may I ask what expensive interest / neighbourhood you have? Just curious ...

I live in the US (expensive east coast). Here, you get average of 1% yield on your bank which is considered high yield btw. So 1% per year before taxes is 100,000. Thats a min. pre-tax that I need.

Note that I did not mention anything about investing/markets etc. because those are not guaranteed.

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

500k is the smallest number I've seen for this calculation. What kind of investment are you thinking?

500k at 7% per year (common number used for the growth of the market as a whole, and thus the average growth of index funds) means $35k/year, not an unreasonable salary to live on.

Even assuming that 35k would be satisfying, that doesn't give you much headroom if something goes wrong.

Re: Poll: What number would make you say "I am financially independent"?

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I've kinda had the number $4,000,000 in mind as my "independent" number. If I could walk away from a transaction with 4MM (net), I figure that would be enough to pay off whatever trivial debt I have now, buy a nice house and a nice car, do a few things for close family and friends, and leave enough to do some travel and exploring while living a reasonable (but not lavish) lifestyle.

And, if I then decided to do another startup at some point, I'd have a little bit of seed capital already handy.

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

500k is the smallest number I've seen for this calculation. What kind of investment are you thinking?

500k at 7% per year (common number used for the growth of the market as a whole, and thus the average growth of index funds) means $35k/year, not an unreasonable salary to live on.

That's highly dependent upon where you live though... but not an unreasonable number for a single person. For me, since I have a family and currently live in CA, the number has to be significantly higher than 500K.

Re: Poll: What number would make you say "I am financially independent"?

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post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

500k is the smallest number I've seen for this calculation. What kind of investment are you thinking?

500k at 7% per year (common number used for the growth of the market as a whole, and thus the average growth of index funds) means $35k/year, not an unreasonable salary to live on.

Yes, and that's my current goal by 40 (34 now). 35K/year might not sound like much, but it is a good chunk of money when you don't have debt. Plus, it doesn't mean you can then go on a start another business for the hell of it.
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