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Google Compute Engine available for everyone, App Engine adds PHP

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Re: Google Compute Engine available for everyone, App Engine adds PHP

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I can't seem to find the registration form, how does one get started?

I'm Zafir, I work on the Cloud Platform team. Compute Engine will be available tonight, so please check back in a few hours.

Awesome, thanks!

Re: Google Compute Engine available for everyone, App Engine adds PHP

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LOL at adding PHP support to app engine almost 5 years later. PHP gets a lot of bashing but you can't deny its popularity, as evidenced by the number of stars. https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1...

PHP is only popular because many hosting providers support it. Many hosting providers only support it because it's popular. At no point in this equation does the relative merits of the language itself factor in.

Yet they didn't support it for years and now they are. I only found it funny because within the HN ecosystem you get the impression that it's really dying (rightfully so given the better options out there). Now another platform provider is supporting it, which will only increase its popularity according to your statements.

Re: Google Compute Engine available for everyone, App Engine adds PHP

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PHP??? I would have thought javascript or Ruby would have made more sense.It seems like Google is just reacting to requests from 4 years ago.

The App Engine has mades some decisions that seem to be contradictory. At one end, they drastically increased their prices and sent a signal the GAE was an enterprise-focused platform. Now, they're releasing PHP so people can host blogs on it. Really? You want to compete with $5-6/month wordpress hosting solutions. Who is running the show there?

Re: Google Compute Engine available for everyone, App Engine adds PHP

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Google Compute Engine - now available for everyone * * Till its gets some traction, whereupon we will either jack up prices by 100% or more, or till some bigshot at Google kills it saying its not 'strategically aligned'.

100% try 500-1000%

Re: Google Compute Engine available for everyone, App Engine adds PHP

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PHP??? I would have thought javascript or Ruby would have made more sense.It seems like Google is just reacting to requests from 4 years ago. The App Engine has mades some decisions that seem to be contradictory. At one end, they drastically increased their prices and sent a signal the GAE was an enterprise-focused platform. Now, they're releasing PHP so people can host blogs on it. Really? You want to compete with $…

It was the single most requested feature on the bug tracker by quite a bit.

It's not something I want, but apparently there are quite a few people who do.

Re: Google Compute Engine available for everyone, App Engine adds PHP

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LOL at adding PHP support to app engine almost 5 years later. PHP gets a lot of bashing but you can't deny its popularity, as evidenced by the number of stars. https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1...

PHP is only popular because many hosting providers support it. Many hosting providers only support it because it's popular. At no point in this equation does the relative merits of the language itself factor in.

PHP is popular because it's incredibly easy to get started for someone used to doing things with HTML. An HTML page can be renamed to .php, and that is a valid PHP page. For someone trying to go from HTML/CSS to the server side, PHP presents the path of least resistance.

When using PHP, a lot of the basic data structure transforms are implemented in the core language. You can integrate simple server side functionality into a static HTML page in just a few minutes, and it will work on 99%+ of hosting providers, and requires no fees and no tools.

For pedantic hackers like us, sure, it's garbage, but for the average person that just wants to get things done, it is pure gold.

Also, WordPress, while the biggest POS in almost every possible way, has a vast community of users, designers, plugin makers, and a marketplace for various extensions and themes.

Google just opened up a huge chunk of the web app / CMS market.

Re: Google Compute Engine available for everyone, App Engine adds PHP

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I know there's google people floating around HN, does anyone know what the priorities are like as far as adding more services is concerned? I've been planning on launching on AWS, but I'd prefer google. But there's still tons of services google doesn't offer (or I can't find reference to at least). It is basically just alternatives to EC2, S3 and the database thing right now right? Are there plans for replacements fo…

When it comes to my (virtual) infrastructure, I want to go with a platform that's stable (including in terms of price), well-tested by others who have similar needs as me, and has a lot of documentation / articles / questions online. And I would never go with a platform that doesn't have all other services that I may need (as you mentioned). Why wait for google replacing SES when you can just go with AWS? MHO, obviously!

Re: Google Compute Engine available for everyone, App Engine adds PHP

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LOL at adding PHP support to app engine almost 5 years later. PHP gets a lot of bashing but you can't deny its popularity, as evidenced by the number of stars. https://code.google.com/p/googleappengine/issues/detail?id=1...

Google IO 2014: App Engine now supports ColdFusion.

Re: Google Compute Engine available for everyone, App Engine adds PHP

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PHP is only popular because many hosting providers support it. Many hosting providers only support it because it's popular. At no point in this equation does the relative merits of the language itself factor in.

PHP is popular because it's incredibly easy to get started for someone used to doing things with HTML. An HTML page can be renamed to .php, and that is a valid PHP page. For someone trying to go from HTML/CSS to the server side, PHP presents the path of least resistance. When using PHP, a lot of the basic data structure transforms are implemented in the core language. You can integrate simple server side functionalit…

> For pedantic hackers like us, sure, it's garbage, but for the average person that just wants to get things done, it is pure gold.

I disagree. The developers of Wordpress are not "the average person". There are too many production sites that run on PHP to say it's garbage.

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