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Opera claims ex-employee took trade secrets to Mozilla, sues him for $3.4M

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Re: Opera claims ex-employee took trade secrets to Mozilla, sues him for $3.4M

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Last time I checked, Norway was not really part of the US, so the law might actually be different…

It's not just a US concept. Norway seems to have fairly strong protections on the expression of ideas - i.e. you can't copyright ideas in many cases. I wonder do they have special laws for trade secrets. Opera are going to have difficulty hiring people if they are suing former employees.

Pretty sure you can't copyright ideas anywhere.

Re: Opera claims ex-employee took trade secrets to Mozilla, sues him for $3.4M

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Opera gets in bed with Google Chrome and then sues the other camp? I thought they were above all this. Either way, an idea for a browser feature is hardly a huge industrial secret - Webkit, Blink and Gecko have near-parity on features, and are competing more on speed. How would this stand up in court? Neither Google nor Opera have anything to gain from this - what could be the economic rationale?

"Opera gets in bed with Google Chrome and then sues the other camp? I thought they were above all this." These two things are not linked, stop trying to make it so.

They seem linked to me. Since cases like this are much harder to pull off under European law unless you can show actual copy-pasted code, this (like the WebKit move) looks like the symptoms of clueless non-technical management taking over and destroying the company by desperately trying to 'save it.'

Re: Opera claims ex-employee took trade secrets to Mozilla, sues him for $3.4M

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Their lawsuit claims that "Opera Software ASA is an innovative company which has developed software and technology which have proved to be successful internationally".

The article talks about features which aren't really IP. Perhaps their trade-secrets relate to coding and construction methods that make their product superior, but these really can't be protected unless they're so esoteric that no one would logically come up with them independently.

So they sue a non-profit to stifle competition in their industry ... show me more innovation (and market-share) than Mozilla and then maybe I'll believe you're the innovator.

Re: Opera claims ex-employee took trade secrets to Mozilla, sues him for $3.4M

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post #13

Their lawsuit claims that "Opera Software ASA is an innovative company which has developed software and technology which have proved to be successful internationally". The article talks about features which aren't really IP. Perhaps their trade-secrets relate to coding and construction methods that make their product superior, but these really can't be protected unless they're so esoteric that no one would logically…

They did not sue a non-profit. RTFA.

Re: Opera claims ex-employee took trade secrets to Mozilla, sues him for $3.4M

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Opera gets in bed with Google Chrome and then sues the other camp? I thought they were above all this." These two things are not linked, stop trying to make it so.

They seem linked to me. Since cases like this are much harder to pull off under European law unless you can show actual copy-pasted code, this (like the WebKit move) looks like the symptoms of clueless non-technical management taking over and destroying the company by desperately trying to 'save it.'

There is nothing in the article that says anything about anything related to Google Chrome.

Re: Opera claims ex-employee took trade secrets to Mozilla, sues him for $3.4M

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Opera gets in bed with Google Chrome and then sues the other camp? I thought they were above all this. Either way, an idea for a browser feature is hardly a huge industrial secret - Webkit, Blink and Gecko have near-parity on features, and are competing more on speed. How would this stand up in court? Neither Google nor Opera have anything to gain from this - what could be the economic rationale?

I don't think switch to Google's engine is the cause, it's rather another symptom of the same thing — after Jon von Tetzchner has left Opera Software has changed their priorities.

Change of engine, downsizing (and old-time developers fleeing the company), and now the lawsuit to me indicate that Opera Software now favors profits over preserving company's culture, image and web standards influence.

Hippies have left, suits have taken over.

Re: Opera claims ex-employee took trade secrets to Mozilla, sues him for $3.4M

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post #13

Their lawsuit claims that "Opera Software ASA is an innovative company which has developed software and technology which have proved to be successful internationally". The article talks about features which aren't really IP. Perhaps their trade-secrets relate to coding and construction methods that make their product superior, but these really can't be protected unless they're so esoteric that no one would logically…

They did not sue a non-profit. RTFA.

Not to mention, Mozilla corporation is not a non-profit :)

Re: Opera claims ex-employee took trade secrets to Mozilla, sues him for $3.4M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They did not sue a non-profit. RTFA.

Not to mention, Mozilla corporation is not a non-profit :)

Technically true, but they are 100% owned by a non-profit. (Mozilla Foundation owns Mozilla Corporation)
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