This Is the Modern Manhunt: The FBI, the Hive Mind and the Boston Bombers • Hacker News Board

Re: This Is the Modern Manhunt: The FBI, the Hive Mind and the Boston Bombers

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Post by [deleted] » Sat, Apr 20, 2013, 7:40 AM UTC

zeteo wrote: post #2

This article does little more than pointlessly recycle the tired old trope of the "wisdom of crowds". Yes, the Boston police tried to create some sort of ad-hoc Mechanical Turk. With what results? The relevant video came not from a cellphone camera, but from a good old-fashioned department store surveillance camera. There is no mention of who did the analysis that identified suspects on that video; I suspect it was t…

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Re: This Is the Modern Manhunt: The FBI, the Hive Mind and the Boston Bombers

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Post by kintamanimatt » Sat, Apr 20, 2013, 7:52 AM UTC

zeteo wrote: post #2

This article does little more than pointlessly recycle the tired old trope of the "wisdom of crowds". Yes, the Boston police tried to create some sort of ad-hoc Mechanical Turk. With what results? The relevant video came not from a cellphone camera, but from a good old-fashioned department store surveillance camera. There is no mention of who did the analysis that identified suspects on that video; I suspect it was t…

The front page is just a collection of the most popular submissions from the default subreddits if you're a new user or not logged in, so yeah, it will be a worse source of news because it's not intended to be a source of news. However, the news subreddits do a really good job at linking to popular news stories and providing rapid updates to "breaking" situations, e.g. http://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1cnwms/mods_removed_th... The comments on submissions can provide a lot of value too, where there's value to be had.

Re: This Is the Modern Manhunt: The FBI, the Hive Mind and the Boston Bombers

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Post by lifeisstillgood » Sat, Apr 20, 2013, 8:26 AM UTC

The takeaway for me is if you want to murder folks, make sure you do it in a mundane way so the hive mind does not get involved and your case just shuffles off to an overworked homicide desk

Re: This Is the Modern Manhunt: The FBI, the Hive Mind and the Boston Bombers

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Post by gexla » Sat, Apr 20, 2013, 8:44 AM UTC

zeteo wrote: post #2

This article does little more than pointlessly recycle the tired old trope of the "wisdom of crowds". Yes, the Boston police tried to create some sort of ad-hoc Mechanical Turk. With what results? The relevant video came not from a cellphone camera, but from a good old-fashioned department store surveillance camera. There is no mention of who did the analysis that identified suspects on that video; I suspect it was t…

To add to old-fashioned surveillance cameras is old fashion witness questioning. It seems that at least one witness was able to provide a description which probably filled in a lot for the who, what and when to focus on.

Re: This Is the Modern Manhunt: The FBI, the Hive Mind and the Boston Bombers

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Post by walshemj » Sat, Apr 20, 2013, 11:32 AM UTC

doktrin wrote: post #3

zeteo wrote: post #2

This article does little more than pointlessly recycle the tired old trope of the "wisdom of crowds". Yes, the Boston police tried to create some sort of ad-hoc Mechanical Turk. With what results? The relevant video came not from a cellphone camera, but from a good old-fashioned department store surveillance camera. There is no mention of who did the analysis that identified suspects on that video; I suspect it was t…

A BI piece claiming the "Reddit hive-mind" essentially did the lions share of work in identifying the bombers [1] rolled across my FB feed an hour ago. I typically don't put much stock in anything that comes out of Business Insider, nor have I attempted to verify their claims. Certainly grain of salt worthy. [1] http://www.businessinsider.com/boston-bombers-martin-richard...

Which is total bolocks redit is damm lucky they dint get anyone killed as the Guardian headline says it all "Boston bombing identification attempts on social media end in farce"

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/apr/19/boston-bombing-s...

I particularly liked the new statesmans description of redits attempt to help as "a racist game of wheres wally"

Re: This Is the Modern Manhunt: The FBI, the Hive Mind and the Boston Bombers

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Post by wslh » Sat, Apr 20, 2013, 11:35 AM UTC

zeteo wrote: post #2

This article does little more than pointlessly recycle the tired old trope of the "wisdom of crowds". Yes, the Boston police tried to create some sort of ad-hoc Mechanical Turk. With what results? The relevant video came not from a cellphone camera, but from a good old-fashioned department store surveillance camera. There is no mention of who did the analysis that identified suspects on that video; I suspect it was t…

I am not a "crodsourcist" or pro vigilante but I think better platforms can be built to help on a criminal investigation. To prevent false crowd revenges a kind of anonymization must be applied to the data.