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Boston Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Apprehended Alive

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Re: Boston Bombing Suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev Apprehended Alive

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Post by deelowe »

pvnick wrote: post #2

Thank God. While I'm honestly not concerned about the man's well-being - that 8-year-old boy should be alive in his place - I am very curious as to why they did this.

Speculation is that they are/were radical jihadists based on their background and recent changes in their behavior.

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Post by frisco »

I can't help but feel like these brothers are also victims here. Of course, their victimhood is nothing like what they inflicted on the people of Boston and the marathoners, but they're victims nonetheless. Humans are glorified chemical reaction vessels; somehow, they ended up going down a path that led them here. Was there any alternative? Was it the education system? Social circumstances? I'm sure the magnitude of what he's done must be setting in on Dzhozkar now. Provided that this case is how it appears, his life is over; he's committed terrible crimes. But provided that he's not a biologically-determined sociopath, somewhere down the road he become subject to forces that ended up with him hiding from FBI HRT in someone's backyard after a prolonged shootout-chase with his brother dead. Even if this is justice, it seems tragic.

EDIT: I'm not denying agency or free will, I'm just expressing the belief that you are the product of your environment. I like the saying that an individual will tend towards being the average of their friends. If all of your friends are into running, you'll probably end up being into running. If all of your friends are into music, you'll probably end up interested in music. Certain books, movies, or other cultural experiences can affect individuals in differing, significant ways. All of these forces act on people to create who they are tomorrow.

There's no statement about free will, in a strong sense, in there. It's all about social and cultural context, and brownian motion. He's still responsible for his actions. I would reserve the term "human monster" for measurable psychopaths. Those do exist, and are a different matter entirely.

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Post by campnic »

TallboyOne wrote: post #13

Why are the parents saying 'he didn't do it' when they were throwing exploses out of a car and killing officers. Wtf??

Its the stages of grief. Something you've invested a considerable amount of your life in was revealed to you in the last 24 hours to be not what you believed it to be. That causes grief and causes denial.

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Post by geuis »

ghc wrote: post #12

For me this will be the enduring image of the manhunt: http://i.imgur.com/lV7CMQA.jpg Even if there's a manhunt, shelter in place order, and an officer with an assault rifle on every corner, life will go on.

I don't understand what this is an image of. The quality is very poor, is this because its a crop of a much larger image?

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Post by caf »

anigbrowl wrote: post #5
pvnick wrote: post #2

Thank God. While I'm honestly not concerned about the man's well-being - that 8-year-old boy should be alive in his place - I am very curious as to why they did this.

Agreed. A trial is the best possible outcome to this bad situation. Boston & surrounding PDs did a good job.

I wonder how they'll find a jury that doesn't already think he's guilty.

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Post by darxius »

frisco wrote: post #14

I can't help but feel like these brothers are also victims here. Of course, their victimhood is nothing like what they inflicted on the people of Boston and the marathoners, but they're victims nonetheless. Humans are glorified chemical reaction vessels; somehow, they ended up going down a path that led them here. Was there any alternative? Was it the education system? Social circumstances? I'm sure the magnitude of…

I can see where you're coming from and we probably won't know until he gives a statement. Whether it was a religious, nationalist or anarchist attack, it will be interesting to see why he thought he needed to do what he did.
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