There is a high probability that this is false accusations, just "because we can" from the prosecutors ... I'm from Sweden and I'm very sad to say that I don't consider Sweden to fulfil all the requirements for rule of law and legal security. Even if he is acquitted from the crimes in a trial he will have spent a few months arrested and we don't have a bail system here in Sweden. Both European committee for the preve…
Pirate Bay co-founder charged with hacking and fraud
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#12There is a high probability that this is false accusations, just "because we can" from the prosecutors ... I'm from Sweden and I'm very sad to say that I don't consider Sweden to fulfil all the requirements for rule of law and legal security. Even if he is acquitted from the crimes in a trial he will have spent a few months arrested and we don't have a bail system here in Sweden. Both European committee for the preve…
And if anyone is a flight risk who would never be granted bail it is Gottfried, He has already fled a sentence once - that is not to say that being in a 'häkte' is fun or humane, depending on circumstances.
Finally:
>I'm from Sweden and I'm very sad to say that I don't consider Sweden to fulfil all the requirements for rule of law and legal security. [Citation Neeeded]
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#13One does not simply sue our hero
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#14>hacking into several Swedish companies and stealing personal data Are these allegations true? If so, I don't think this man deserves sympathies. The punishment may be too harsh in my opinion for these type of crimes, but they are crimes nonetheless.
He has been held for something like 7 months without charges under a law that is supposed to allow holding someone while evidence is gathered. The person is not supposed to be held for more than 7 days, 14 at the most. So they've had to keep filing and getting a judge to approve extensions to keep holding him without charging him.
Now, one wonders if they needed 7+ months to gather evidence, if they ever had any evidence to begin with, to justify arresting him.
Who knows, but this is not off to a good start.
The likely answer:
Charges come, they are dropped or dismissed (they were possibly fabricated to begin with), since he is in the country now he is dealt with for Pirate Bay related stuff, credited with time served and is either released or imprisoned for a few more months, and then everyone forgets about it.
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#15> illegally transfer money from a bank. What does it mean to illegally transfer money? Is this a euphemism for stealing?
* Transferring money between two bank accounts neither of which one owns. For example, I could transfer money from niggler's bank account to Obama's bank account, without personally benefiting from it, "for the lulz," or for trying to see if I actually have access to do that after having hacked into a bank's system.
* Transferring my own money from my bank account to another bank without having permission to do so. Maybe the money has been frozen in some way. In that case, it is my own money, so it isn't stealing.
Not sure what happened here, but the term is broader.
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#16There is a high probability that this is false accusations, just "because we can" from the prosecutors ... I'm from Sweden and I'm very sad to say that I don't consider Sweden to fulfil all the requirements for rule of law and legal security. Even if he is acquitted from the crimes in a trial he will have spent a few months arrested and we don't have a bail system here in Sweden. Both European committee for the preve…
Have you even read the indictment? A casual look seems to indicate that the investigation is very thorough. (See another post here for link) And if anyone is a flight risk who would never be granted bail it is Gottfried, He has already fled a sentence once - that is not to say that being in a 'häkte' is fun or humane, depending on circumstances. Finally: >I'm from Sweden and I'm very sad to say that I don't consider…
What kind of "citation" would you expect? The Swedish government to tell you they're dirty?
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#17There is a high probability that this is false accusations, just "because we can" from the prosecutors ... I'm from Sweden and I'm very sad to say that I don't consider Sweden to fulfil all the requirements for rule of law and legal security. Even if he is acquitted from the crimes in a trial he will have spent a few months arrested and we don't have a bail system here in Sweden. Both European committee for the preve…
Out of interest, would you prefer to face Swedish justice or the US system?
The US system have far too severe penalties. Sentences of 10-100 years are now common. Conditions in prisons are horrible with rampant drug abuse, violence and even murders.
However, the Swedish prosecutors and courts are banana republic quality. Look at the Assange parody for an example. A Swedish prosecutor may invent almost anything as evidence, even a photoshopped screenshot - because ANYTHING can be submitted as evidence in a Swedish court. There is even a recent drug case where the Swedish police illegaly put GPS surveillance on a suspected drug trafficker. The court recognizes the police did this illegaly, but the GPS data is still allowed as evidence. This is called "fri bevisföring" in Swedish. The courts are made up by politically chosen representatives, not a jury, which further contributes to the banana republic sentencing.
So - justice is more blind in Sweden, but she is slapping you on the wrist, instead of decapitating you.
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#18>hacking into several Swedish companies and stealing personal data Are these allegations true? If so, I don't think this man deserves sympathies. The punishment may be too harsh in my opinion for these type of crimes, but they are crimes nonetheless.
>> He was also charged with hacking into the computer servers of Logica, a Swedish company that handles tax documents.
"Oh noes! Don't hack our taxes!!"
Logica is a big, bloated IT services company that makes (shitty) custom software for big customers, typically government agencies. They're in Finland too, but originally from England.
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#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you even read the indictment? A casual look seems to indicate that the investigation is very thorough. (See another post here for link) And if anyone is a flight risk who would never be granted bail it is Gottfried, He has already fled a sentence once - that is not to say that being in a 'häkte' is fun or humane, depending on circumstances. Finally: >I'm from Sweden and I'm very sad to say that I don't consider…
>> I'm from Sweden and I'm very sad to say that I don't consider Sweden to fulfil all the requirements for rule of law and legal security. [Citation Neeeded] What kind of "citation" would you expect? The Swedish government to tell you they're dirty?
A random google search revealed this site: http://worldjusticeproject.org/rule-law-index-map
A quick look suggests that the rule of law in Sweden is among the highest in the world. But if you got any sources on the contrary I would be happy to read them.
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#20There is a high probability that this is false accusations, just "because we can" from the prosecutors ... I'm from Sweden and I'm very sad to say that I don't consider Sweden to fulfil all the requirements for rule of law and legal security. Even if he is acquitted from the crimes in a trial he will have spent a few months arrested and we don't have a bail system here in Sweden. Both European committee for the preve…
Have you even read the indictment? A casual look seems to indicate that the investigation is very thorough. (See another post here for link) And if anyone is a flight risk who would never be granted bail it is Gottfried, He has already fled a sentence once - that is not to say that being in a 'häkte' is fun or humane, depending on circumstances. Finally: >I'm from Sweden and I'm very sad to say that I don't consider…