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Re: If I Made Another Monkey Island...

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Post by mtrimpe »

soneca wrote: post #10

I supported Double Fine Adventure on Kickstarter and lot of the last points of the OP refer to how Tim Schafer is managing it. But, in this case, if Ron Gilbert is making a proof of concept with this post, a MVP to check if Monkey Island 3a can be crowdfunded - or even if it is just a critique of Double Fine Adventure campaign, I am on Tim Schafer's side here. Crowdfunding is not about "give me the money and trust me…

I didn't read that much of a value judgement into it. It seems more like he's just managing expectations by explaining that he wouldn't do it that way.

Re: If I Made Another Monkey Island...

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Post by soneca »

mtrimpe wrote: post #11
soneca wrote: post #10

I supported Double Fine Adventure on Kickstarter and lot of the last points of the OP refer to how Tim Schafer is managing it. But, in this case, if Ron Gilbert is making a proof of concept with this post, a MVP to check if Monkey Island 3a can be crowdfunded - or even if it is just a critique of Double Fine Adventure campaign, I am on Tim Schafer's side here. Crowdfunding is not about "give me the money and trust me…

I didn't read that much of a value judgement into it. It seems more like he's just managing expectations by explaining that he wouldn't do it that way.

I tried to read it again, but I see a lot of value judgement into it. One possibility is that it maybe not a judgement of how Tim is managing it, but a critique to the Kickstarter model as a whole. Either way, I don't agree with him.

If a Monkey Island is going to be created in this manner I wouldn´t support it as a crowdfunding project. But I would certainly buy the game after it is released! And pay good cash too!

I don't think Ron is doing something bad by stating those things, I just think he doesn't get crowdfunding the same way I do.

Re: If I Made Another Monkey Island...

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Post by criley »

soneca wrote: post #10

I supported Double Fine Adventure on Kickstarter and lot of the last points of the OP refer to how Tim Schafer is managing it. But, in this case, if Ron Gilbert is making a proof of concept with this post, a MVP to check if Monkey Island 3a can be crowdfunded - or even if it is just a critique of Double Fine Adventure campaign, I am on Tim Schafer's side here. Crowdfunding is not about "give me the money and trust me…

I disagree. I love that model of crowdfunding and I think he hit the nail on the head: the stretch goals, crowd feedback, demos, etc are a hallmark of a blockbuster Kickstarter.

But, as he admitted, he's not interested in breaking records. He's interested in making his game the way he wants.

That's totally legit and I totally support someone making that claim.

It's up to each and everyone of us to assess that claim and decide if we trust him in that endeavour.

I strongly resist the idea that Kickstarted games MUST follow one model or they are wrong or bad. Not every creative mind works well with the chaos and bile that spews from the crowd.

Re: If I Made Another Monkey Island...

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Post by probably_wrong »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #12

Is SCUMM really better than Lua?

From what I've read about SCUMM, it was designed to be very similar to writing a regular script for, say, a TV show. The famous "hamster in the microwave" sequence was conceived, planned and implemented in one afternoon, and it even included some form of multitasking. Just by reading a piece of code such as this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SLVyjUCOIo&t=0m10s) you get a sense of what is going on, and that makes trying ideas really simple.

You probably wouldn't use SCUMM for anything except an adventure game, but in that particular case I think it would be much better than a general-purpose language as LUA.

Re: If I Made Another Monkey Island...

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Post by cdmoyer »

soneca wrote: post #10

I supported Double Fine Adventure on Kickstarter and lot of the last points of the OP refer to how Tim Schafer is managing it. But, in this case, if Ron Gilbert is making a proof of concept with this post, a MVP to check if Monkey Island 3a can be crowdfunded - or even if it is just a critique of Double Fine Adventure campaign, I am on Tim Schafer's side here. Crowdfunding is not about "give me the money and trust me…

> "give me the money and trust me"

That's basically the inverse of my attitude when I back a kickstarter. I generally support what they're doing, believe that they are going to try and make the thing they said, and then just trust that they'll eventually deliver something.

Re: If I Made Another Monkey Island...

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Post by willismichael »

nollidge wrote: post #16

I hope no one minds if I hijack to ask: What are some really good MODERN adventure games, along the lines of MI or the Space Quests? Besides the Two Guys' Kickstarter campaign, I mean...

Seconded - I've found and played some of the King's Quest remakes by ADG and Infamous Adventures, then started wondering if there are more recent games along these lines.
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