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Tinmark is now free – fully for 30 days, read and edit after that

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I'm wondering who needs a bookmarking app in 2013, let alone pay for it.

Possibly an unpopular opinion, but I agree. Google has had their bookmarks service since 2005, and I don't even use that. Standard import/ export and attach the file is all I've ever needed.

Perhaps there is a use case outside mine? I also don't give an iota of a shit about socially sharing my bookmarks.

Re: Tinmark is now free – fully for 30 days, read and edit after that

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"Tinmark now offers a free trial" would certainly be more honest, but we all know how titles and headlines work.

Hi ch0wn (and moioci) co-founder here, The reason we didn't call it a "free trial" is because you can still keep using the service after 30 days. Some SAAS products have free plans that have caps on the amount of data you can create. We're basically saying the cap of data for the free plan is whatever you create in the 30 days -- that could be hundreds or thousands of bookmarks. You'll still have access to everything…

I think it's fine to have a promotion and do everything possible to get users to experience and hopefully buy your product (I would not be paying my own mortgage otherwise). But I disagree with the "free forever" term in this case. This is a free trial. Perhaps there is a small catch to it, but still a free trial in my opinion.

Re: Tinmark is now free – fully for 30 days, read and edit after that

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post #10

I'm wondering who needs a bookmarking app in 2013, let alone pay for it.

Possibly an unpopular opinion, but I agree. Google has had their bookmarks service since 2005, and I don't even use that. Standard import/ export and attach the file is all I've ever needed. Perhaps there is a use case outside mine? I also don't give an iota of a shit about socially sharing my bookmarks.

I agree with you. URL is just one kind of the things we need to quickly store. We also need short notes, pictures, blobs, sounds.. and for that, we need something like Evernote. Having an app just for URLs seems crazy to me. Just MOO.

Re: Tinmark is now free – fully for 30 days, read and edit after that

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post #11
post #10

I'm wondering who needs a bookmarking app in 2013, let alone pay for it.

Possibly an unpopular opinion, but I agree. Google has had their bookmarks service since 2005, and I don't even use that. Standard import/ export and attach the file is all I've ever needed. Perhaps there is a use case outside mine? I also don't give an iota of a shit about socially sharing my bookmarks.

Cross-platform access is the killer feature for me (with Pinboard). I frequently need to access my bookmarks on systems that aren't my own, so these sorts of services are quite handy.

Re: Tinmark is now free – fully for 30 days, read and edit after that

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post #7
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Tinmark now offers a free trial" would certainly be more honest, but we all know how titles and headlines work.

Hi ch0wn (and moioci) co-founder here, The reason we didn't call it a "free trial" is because you can still keep using the service after 30 days. Some SAAS products have free plans that have caps on the amount of data you can create. We're basically saying the cap of data for the free plan is whatever you create in the 30 days -- that could be hundreds or thousands of bookmarks. You'll still have access to everything…

Since you will eventually be limiting the core functionality I would say it is more appropriate to say it is a free trial with persistent, exportable data.

Re: Tinmark is now free – fully for 30 days, read and edit after that

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post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi ch0wn (and moioci) co-founder here, The reason we didn't call it a "free trial" is because you can still keep using the service after 30 days. Some SAAS products have free plans that have caps on the amount of data you can create. We're basically saying the cap of data for the free plan is whatever you create in the 30 days -- that could be hundreds or thousands of bookmarks. You'll still have access to everything…

Since you will eventually be limiting the core functionality I would say it is more appropriate to say it is a free trial with persistent, exportable data.

Yeah, I'm sure that's what the marketing department's first choice was.

I think this entire line of discussion is coming from a place of thinking way too much about it. Tinmark's cofounder's answer above is exactly what I was going to say. There's nothing dishonest about and below the headline there are 3 lines of text that very clearly state what a user would be getting. There's nothing ambiguous about the explanation.

Re: Tinmark is now free – fully for 30 days, read and edit after that

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post #10

I'm wondering who needs a bookmarking app in 2013, let alone pay for it.

I use one as I use multiple browsers, on multiple computers, at multiple locations, with varying permissions. The social discovery is quite neat in some of them as well.

But yeah pay for one... you'd have to have a special need to pay for one. For reference the one I have been using and enjoy is Kippt (https://kippt.com)

HOWEVER their latest update has broken login on Safari if someone from kippt reads this please please fix it so I can use it on my ipad :)

Re: Tinmark is now free – fully for 30 days, read and edit after that

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possibly an unpopular opinion, but I agree. Google has had their bookmarks service since 2005, and I don't even use that. Standard import/ export and attach the file is all I've ever needed. Perhaps there is a use case outside mine? I also don't give an iota of a shit about socially sharing my bookmarks.

Cross-platform access is the killer feature for me (with Pinboard). I frequently need to access my bookmarks on systems that aren't my own, so these sorts of services are quite handy.

I often send a friend a subset of my bookmarks. Having an online service with good share-able urls is important to me.

Re: Tinmark is now free – fully for 30 days, read and edit after that

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> seems like it'd convert really well. Yeah, I'm looking at a similar 'mothballware' plan (for want of a better term) at a similar price point for something I'm currently building. I'd be interested to hear of others' experience of it. Yes, there's a risk of it seeming like you're cutting off something people are using, but if they're that invested in it, hopefully they won't mind chipping in a modest amount now they…

No apology necessary, I'm at work, ill. Bronchitis. Totally understand. I don't know what you mean by mothballware. Care to elaborate? I don't think there's a risk of seeming like you're cutting people off. So long as you're up-front with people when they sign up then there's no problem with this. The value is in the ability to add and edit your bookmarks. Being able to access them later is trivial if you're looking…

> I don't know what you mean by mothballware. Care to elaborate?

On reflection, it's a pretty lame term I tried to coin there. I was looking for something that expressed the idea that after a certain period of time, accounts that weren't dormant would need paying for before in order to be used properly again, so a bit like them being mothballed (https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=define%3A%20mothballed) and unmothballed when eventually paid for.

Like I said, lame term. Am sure there's a better word out there that'll come to me when my head is clear.

Re: Tinmark is now free – fully for 30 days, read and edit after that

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Since you will eventually be limiting the core functionality I would say it is more appropriate to say it is a free trial with persistent, exportable data.

Yeah, I'm sure that's what the marketing department's first choice was. I think this entire line of discussion is coming from a place of thinking way too much about it. Tinmark's cofounder's answer above is exactly what I was going to say. There's nothing dishonest about and below the headline there are 3 lines of text that very clearly state what a user would be getting. There's nothing ambiguous about the explanati…

I think the title is dishonest, but not egregiously so. It's not a real problem, you are right about that.
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