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$10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013

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Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013

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Post by kmfrk »

famousactress wrote: post #2

So, if I was at a shop with a large recruiting budget trying hard to land new talent, and I was also specifically interested in fostering an environment the encouraged and promoted women in our industry.. I'd seriously consider writing a check for 10k and doubling the contribution today. Any takers?

I'm surprised someone from a high-profile company has yet to come out of the blue and drop a five- or even six-figure amount.

At least someone like Sheryl Sandberg.

Maybe they should expand their reach and hit up the Rolodex? I'm honestly surprised we haven't seen a bigger reaction.

Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013

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Post by kmfrk »

Nordvind wrote: post #10
chill1 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously? Come on.. Even if you've only been half paying attention the last several days, you'd realize that this issue is quite serious and personal to a lot of people. If, when you saw this post, all that came to your mind was a smart ass comment.. Please, next time, keep it to yourself.

I find your comment offensive, given that I've right of free speech, which is guaranteed by constitution.

I find your understanding of "constitution" offensive.

Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013

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Post by SeanDav »

In the light of what happened at PyCon with Adria Richards and the whole internet explosion of nastiness and short sightedness from all sides I actually don't quite know what to think about "Women in Tech"

I saw so much hate that I was ashamed to be a male and in tech, yet I also saw so much narrow minded reporting and deliberate distortion of events from many so called feminists and feminist activists (not all female btw) that a part of me would be quite happy if I never saw a female in tech again.

We all lost in that affair - male, female, tech, non tech.

A part of me doesn't even want to think about it again for some time until the dust has completely settled. I would rather not even see articles like this.

A bigger part also realizes that there are real issues with sexism and would love to see more women in tech and understands that the only way that is going to happen is by honest and open discussion.

Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013

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Post by kawsper »

jmduke wrote: post #8
famousactress wrote: post #2

So, if I was at a shop with a large recruiting budget trying hard to land new talent, and I was also specifically interested in fostering an environment the encouraged and promoted women in our industry.. I'd seriously consider writing a check for 10k and doubling the contribution today. Any takers?

As a rational male programmer, I'd be quite impressed by such a move. Beyond the important social message that such an act fosters, it's just smart . Good companies want to hire good people. Great female programmers are in (relatively to male) low demand and a smart company would avail themselves of that.

> Great female programmers are in (relatively to male) low demand

Why do you think that?

Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013

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Post by budde »

Nordvind wrote: post #10
chill1 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seriously? Come on.. Even if you've only been half paying attention the last several days, you'd realize that this issue is quite serious and personal to a lot of people. If, when you saw this post, all that came to your mind was a smart ass comment.. Please, next time, keep it to yourself.

I find your comment offensive, given that I've right of free speech, which is guaranteed by constitution.

The First Amendment prohibits the government from passing a law that abridges or censors your right to speak publicly. It does not grant you the absolute right to say whatever you want, wherever you want, whenever you want, free of consequence.

Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013

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Post by moistgorilla »

kawsper wrote: post #14
jmduke wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a rational male programmer, I'd be quite impressed by such a move. Beyond the important social message that such an act fosters, it's just smart . Good companies want to hire good people. Great female programmers are in (relatively to male) low demand and a smart company would avail themselves of that.

> Great female programmers are in (relatively to male) low demand Why do you think that?

I think he meant low supply

Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013

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Post by columbo »

chill1 wrote: post #5
reallynosh1t wrote: post #3

I would donate my big dongle.

Seriously? Come on.. Even if you've only been half paying attention the last several days, you'd realize that this issue is quite serious and personal to a lot of people. If, when you saw this post, all that came to your mind was a smart ass comment.. Please, next time, keep it to yourself.

I wonder if every user created in the last 7 days should be hellbanned, it seems the vast majority of them are lolcats-/b/ers and other derivatives who found this place due to last week's news explosion.

Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013

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Post by pekk »

SeanDav wrote: post #13

In the light of what happened at PyCon with Adria Richards and the whole internet explosion of nastiness and short sightedness from all sides I actually don't quite know what to think about "Women in Tech" I saw so much hate that I was ashamed to be a male and in tech, yet I also saw so much narrow minded reporting and deliberate distortion of events from many so called feminists and feminist activists (not all femal…

It's hard to understand how you could think that Adria Richards is representative of all "women in tech".

It's also hard to understand why you take Adria's incident as such a severe personal affront to yourself that you not only seem to want PyLadies to bite the dust, but "a part of [you] would be quite happy if [you] never saw a female in tech again." Even a sane and moderate person can see in this post a suggestion that you would like to see women actively driven out of tech - all because you are offended about Adria Richards.

With respect, please consider that your reaction to this may be strongly irrational and that the things you are saying as a result (and the Adria-unrelated places you are choosing to start a fight) may be making matters even worse.

Re: $10,000 Raised for PyLadies at PyCon 2013

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Post by [deleted] »

SeanDav wrote: post #13

In the light of what happened at PyCon with Adria Richards and the whole internet explosion of nastiness and short sightedness from all sides I actually don't quite know what to think about "Women in Tech" I saw so much hate that I was ashamed to be a male and in tech, yet I also saw so much narrow minded reporting and deliberate distortion of events from many so called feminists and feminist activists (not all femal…

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