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Re: Google Glass Sparks Rise of Neo-Luddism

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Post by tdonaghe » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 6:02 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #10

dromidas wrote: post #5

Do the neo-luddites not realize that we are on cameras all of the time anyway? Except most likely when you are in your home. Although there is a chance you are on camera there as well without your knowledge. You cannot go out in public without being recorded on video and haven't for years and years already. It's great that google glass is helping awareness of this issue, but I think it is not targeting the right thin…

You're serious? Maybe in major city centers, but in the suburbs or rural areas, who's doing the surveilling? I don't consider an occasional (or even regular) satellite imaging and GMaps vans to be remotely as invasive as a random person walking down the street with their Glass recording me trying to keep my crying babies happy in the stroller.

I might be concerned if the only thing the random Glass wearer recorded was you walking your babies, but if that's a small part of his daily record, so what? Without Glass he would have seen you just the same.

Re: Google Glass Sparks Rise of Neo-Luddism

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Post by dromidas » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 8:23 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #10

dromidas wrote: post #5

Do the neo-luddites not realize that we are on cameras all of the time anyway? Except most likely when you are in your home. Although there is a chance you are on camera there as well without your knowledge. You cannot go out in public without being recorded on video and haven't for years and years already. It's great that google glass is helping awareness of this issue, but I think it is not targeting the right thin…

You're serious? Maybe in major city centers, but in the suburbs or rural areas, who's doing the surveilling? I don't consider an occasional (or even regular) satellite imaging and GMaps vans to be remotely as invasive as a random person walking down the street with their Glass recording me trying to keep my crying babies happy in the stroller.

That's true. I guess in backwater places without internet kind of places or whatever. But I would imagine not too many people there would have the money to afford a google glass to begin with though.

I don't live in a big city though but I wake up and leave my apartment and already I'm being recorded through parking lot cameras. I drive passed the apartment office and that camera records me too. I reach the road and cops pass by all the time with their mounted cameras. I stop by and and I'm recorded by their in house camera. I work 9ish hours a day and I am constantly on camera by various cameras throughout the office building. I go to class and the various 'campus cams' record me.

I could go on and on and on. Unless I'm in the woods somewhere in alabama or something I don't expect to get through a single day without at least 1/4 of it on camera.

Re: Google Glass Sparks Rise of Neo-Luddism

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Post by r00fus » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 8:41 PM UTC

tdonaghe wrote: post #11

r00fus wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're serious? Maybe in major city centers, but in the suburbs or rural areas, who's doing the surveilling? I don't consider an occasional (or even regular) satellite imaging and GMaps vans to be remotely as invasive as a random person walking down the street with their Glass recording me trying to keep my crying babies happy in the stroller.

I might be concerned if the only thing the random Glass wearer recorded was you walking your babies, but if that's a small part of his daily record, so what? Without Glass he would have seen you just the same.

When someone wears Glass and is recording, they cease to be "just another person" and become a lens of Google's panopticon.

Re: Google Glass Sparks Rise of Neo-Luddism

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Post by tdonaghe » Fri, Mar 22, 2013, 9:00 PM UTC

r00fus wrote: post #13

tdonaghe wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I might be concerned if the only thing the random Glass wearer recorded was you walking your babies, but if that's a small part of his daily record, so what? Without Glass he would have seen you just the same.

When someone wears Glass and is recording, they cease to be "just another person" and become a lens of Google's panopticon.

Plus the panopticon of everyone else with access to the data. I think we'll be able to broadcast our recordings publicly, and if so then tools will exist to take advantage of all the data in the public broadcasts and then we'll all be able to look into each other's lives in an equal way. People who don't publicly broadcast may well be shunned.