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Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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post #6

Sometimes skeuomorphism is useful, when used right. For example, Microsoft's Fresh Paint app for Windows 8. Extreme skeuomorphism which actually combines well within the flat W8 interface, screenshot: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Freshpain...

You have got to be kidding. That looks terrible and wastes half the space on the screen. It's not even very good skeuomorphism, the drop shadows aren't in a consistent direction, and the layering of the brushes and canvas doesn't make sense.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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Why do I have the impression that if they go flat, they'll be hailed as geniuses and Microsoft will be forgotten forever? (This comment guaranteed 100% conspirationist and crazy)

Not Windows8-flat, rather non-skeuomorphic.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

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post #6

Sometimes skeuomorphism is useful, when used right. For example, Microsoft's Fresh Paint app for Windows 8. Extreme skeuomorphism which actually combines well within the flat W8 interface, screenshot: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Freshpain...

You have got to be kidding. That looks terrible and wastes half the space on the screen. It's not even very good skeuomorphism, the drop shadows aren't in a consistent direction, and the layering of the brushes and canvas doesn't make sense.

Right, that's not 'fantastic' design-wise, but skeuomorphism has a clear function in this case. That's my point.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

#15
So much for the "consistent UI" apple fans are always touting as a win over android. Now it seems we will have some apps glossy, some flat, some skeuo, etc...

This isn't new. OSX has many different apps that still reflect trends and practices of the era in which they were made.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

#16
post #6

Sometimes skeuomorphism is useful, when used right. For example, Microsoft's Fresh Paint app for Windows 8. Extreme skeuomorphism which actually combines well within the flat W8 interface, screenshot: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fa/Freshpain...

You have got to be kidding. That looks terrible and wastes half the space on the screen. It's not even very good skeuomorphism, the drop shadows aren't in a consistent direction, and the layering of the brushes and canvas doesn't make sense.

Drop shadows is not what skeumorphism is about.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

#17

Why do I have the impression that if they go flat, they'll be hailed as geniuses and Microsoft will be forgotten forever? (This comment guaranteed 100% conspirationist and crazy)

Not Windows8-flat, rather non-skeuomorphic.

Yes, this. Look at the new podcast app that was just updated.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

#18
post #2

Why not use tiles with monochrome icons?

Tiles look great if the content is great, but just like with file previews (on Win7 or OSX), sometimes that's info that I don't need.

For example, using a desktop analogy, I'd rather not see the layout of my first page of code. I would like to know the filetype (icon is great for this often), and some other metadata so I can compare it with similar files.

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

#19
The relevant paragraph from the original WSJ article:

"Some suggested that in Apple’s next mobile operating system, Ive is pushing a more “flat design” that is starker and simpler, according to developers who have spoken to Apple employees but didn’t have further details. Overall, they expect any changes to be pretty conservative."

I wouldn't exactly say that switching to a completely flat design as implied in the headline is a 'conservative' change.

It's quite obvious that they are unlikely to go down the overly skeuomorphic route as seen in the Podcast app, so this is a fairly 'safe' rumor to spread. But of course, it incites the usual skeuomorphic vs flat arguments with the added bonus of accusations of 'copying' the Metro style.

There are many misconceptions in regards to categorizing flat vs skeuomorphic design, here is a good article that explains the differences pretty well.

http://sachagreif.com/flat-pixels/

Re: Apple’s Jony Ive Pushing iOS Interface Team For ‘Flat’ Design

#20

Why do I have the impression that if they go flat, they'll be hailed as geniuses and Microsoft will be forgotten forever? (This comment guaranteed 100% conspirationist and crazy)

Metro flat results in poor UX, because we aren't conditioned to consider squares interactive objects; they have to be either underlined or round.

It will probably be closer to Google's newer designs: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id585027354?mt=8.

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