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A gel that can stop severe bleeding instantly

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Re: A gel that can stop severe bleeding instantly

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Could you not just use Superglue for a temporary fix before treatment?

Superglue probably wouldn't dry as fast. It might be toxic, depending on the chemicals. It sounds like this forces the blood to clot, I don't know if the blood would clot fast behind a superglue barrier.

Re: A gel that can stop severe bleeding instantly

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Could you not just use Superglue for a temporary fix before treatment?

I don't know enough to say why that would or wouldn't work in some absolute sense. But if we're comparing instead of talking absolutes, my first question to narrow it down is: "Doesn't superglue have some gnarly stuff in it? Stuff that you don't want in your body if an alternative like this exists?"

Re: A gel that can stop severe bleeding instantly

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There are many blood stopping agents out on the market. Many of them were originally developed by/for the military in the Iraq/Afghanistan wars, and are now available to civilians.

Here's a list of some of these products:

Bleed-X, TraumaDEX - http://www.bleed-x.com/ http://www.bydezignproducts.com/bleedx.html

BloodSTOP - http://www.lifescienceplus.com/

Celox - http://www.celoxmedical.com/

HemCon - http://www.hemcon.com/

RDH (Rapid Deployment Hemostat) - http://www.surgery.uthscsa.edu/faculty/pubs/cohn-hemostat.pd...

QuickClot - http://www.quikclot.com/home.aspx

WoundSeal, BioSeal, QR Powder - http://www.biolife.com/ourproducts.html

Re: A gel that can stop severe bleeding instantly

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Sounds cool, but I wonder what would happen with bacteria that are trapped underneath the rapidly solidifying gel. Usually, the flow of blood tends to wash pathogens out of the wound, reducing the chance of nasty infections. Positive blood pressure can therefore be considered a natural defense mechanism. But if you stopped the bleeding too quickly, wouldn't it trap pathogens inside the body before the blood has had a…

I am not a doctor, but from what I've read, treating an infection is usually considered much less of a priority by emergency responders than stopping severe bleeding. You can bleed to death in a few minutes. Few if any infections are going to be that fast-acting. So stopping severe bleeding will hopefully buy you some time to get to the ER, where they'll pump you full of antibiotics if they have to.

Yep. Emergency responders use the mnenomic "ABC" to guide their actions in a life-threatening situation: Airway, Breathing, Circulation.

Infection is not on the list.

Military sometimes uses "CABC" - Catastrophic Hemorrhage, Airway, Breathing, Circulation. This gel would address the "C"'s in an emergency situation.

Re: A gel that can stop severe bleeding instantly

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Could you not just use Superglue for a temporary fix before treatment?

| Using ordinary Super Glue on wounds | can cause side effects, but a safer | alternative exists. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/health/04real.html?_r=0

Is that for real ? Does Super glue on wounds is an existing alternative?

Re: A gel that can stop severe bleeding instantly

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post #12

Could you not just use Superglue for a temporary fix before treatment?

Superglue probably wouldn't dry as fast. It might be toxic, depending on the chemicals. It sounds like this forces the blood to clot, I don't know if the blood would clot fast behind a superglue barrier.

The next time you use superglue (cyanoacrylate) and want it to dry and harden instantly, go get some baking soda and gently sprinkle the soda over the superglue. It instantly hardens, albeit with a mottled texture.

I've done that before when I got superglue on my finger, and wasnt sure what was water and what was glue. Some baking soda, and it hardens for me to see and feel it. Also worked well on my RepRap, when I had my X-idler delaminate.

Re: A gel that can stop severe bleeding instantly

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

| Using ordinary Super Glue on wounds | can cause side effects, but a safer | alternative exists. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/04/health/04real.html?_r=0

Is that for real ? Does Super glue on wounds is an existing alternative?

If you go to the pharmacy and buy a bottle of liquid bandage, it's just superglue with antiseptics mixed in.
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