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Bitcoin Tops $50USD on MtGox

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Re: Bitcoin Tops $50USD on MtGox

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Are bitcoins in a position to have a crash as tumultuous as last time, or is the currency more stable now overall?

There are still many people holding large amounts of bitcoin (because they mined them in the early days) and just one of them selling everything would cause a pretty large downswing.

how many is a large amount? 1000?

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It's literally doubled in a month. This is out of control.

And it is terrible for legitimizing them. Why should someone adopt Bitcoins as a currency if there's not a stable value? Bring in all of the security issues that have been popping up as its popularity has increased and I see a decline in Bitcoin adoption coming soon.

I don't think Bitcoins are the answer to the problems they are trying to solve.

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post #12

It's literally doubled in a month. This is out of control.

And it is terrible for legitimizing them. Why should someone adopt Bitcoins as a currency if there's not a stable value? Bring in all of the security issues that have been popping up as its popularity has increased and I see a decline in Bitcoin adoption coming soon. I don't think Bitcoins are the answer to the problems they are trying to solve.

Bitcoin hasn't been legitimate for a long time. The last boom-bust they went through proved that and nothing has changed since.

If you still have Bitcoins, sell'em and don't buy more, except as an intermediary exchange for your discreet transactions.

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post #12

It's literally doubled in a month. This is out of control.

And it is terrible for legitimizing them. Why should someone adopt Bitcoins as a currency if there's not a stable value? Bring in all of the security issues that have been popping up as its popularity has increased and I see a decline in Bitcoin adoption coming soon. I don't think Bitcoins are the answer to the problems they are trying to solve.

Because the cost of accepting them and converting them to currency is less than the transaction fees of credit cards or PayPal. If you don't need to convert to cash right away, then the transaction fees are very low indeed.

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Is there any exchange where I can short sell bitcoins? Besides the fact that this will almost definitely be a profitable strategy in the near future, it would seem that allowing both short and long positions would create market stability. Most securities exchanges allow both short and long positions.

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I originally put about $500 dollars into Bitcoin to play with. Have withdrawn about $2000 cash and still have about 35 BTC worth left. Would have loved to get in on this back in the early days...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are still many people holding large amounts of bitcoin (because they mined them in the early days) and just one of them selling everything would cause a pretty large downswing.

how many is a large amount? 1000?

Here's a list of the top 100 large wallets from Dec, 2011. The biggest wallet then had 447785 BTC. Anyone have an updated list?

http://bitcoinreport.appspot.com/

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Time to sell

It seems funny to assume that. I mean I haven't been tracking the underlying fundamentals, but the nature of most currencies today is that because they are managed, they tend to go up and down. If the fundamentals are solid for Bitcoins, as in there is actually increasing demand (which seems feasible given all the new services advertising their acceptance) and the supply is increasing in tune with expectations (which…

I don't believe that you actually have any understanding of the supply/demand economics of booms/busts necessary to be skeptical of parent.

Increasing demand of a finite resource drives the price up. This drives the demand up even more.

The real value of a Bitcoin is still in USD, of course, so at some point it's going to cross over a line where the people holding Bitcoins want to get rid of it.

Decreasing demand of a finite resource drives the price down. This drives the demand down even more.

The fact that the price is accelerating so quickly indicates a runaway effect.

What, do you _really_ think the real-world USD value of all the Bitcoins in the world has doubled in two weeks?

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It's literally doubled in a month. This is out of control.

And it is terrible for legitimizing them. Why should someone adopt Bitcoins as a currency if there's not a stable value? Bring in all of the security issues that have been popping up as its popularity has increased and I see a decline in Bitcoin adoption coming soon. I don't think Bitcoins are the answer to the problems they are trying to solve.

And what problems are they "trying" to solve?

This is what traction looks like, sometimes it's messy. That doesn't mean it's not legitimate.

What does legitimising a currency mean anyway? It's already used as a medium of exchange and a store of value, that's legitimate.

But if you are going to try and compare it to the "legitimacy" of fiat money, you're not going to find what you're looking for.

Bitcoin is an anarchist concept, it does not seek to be legitimised. It is achieving exactly what is set out to do.

you could just see the fluctuations as the currency being honest about its value as opposed to fiat money which is just as vulnerable yet artificially stabilised (legitimised?).

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