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It's time to bring back Windows NT

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Re: It's time to bring back Windows NT

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Just ditch the MS stuff and come to the *nix/bsd side, pasture is a lot greener.

There is no *NIX/BSD side to speak of. I mean, sure, as a server Linux is exceptional. But as a client it is not even competitive in the business environment. It isn't cost effective, time effective, or even well supported.

I hope to see a day when the perception of modern Linux environments will change. Ubuntu for example is more than capable of being used in a business environment.

Re: It's time to bring back Windows NT

#13

I know a few old time Windows IT people, when they mention NT it's usually in the same sentence as a cuss word.

For a long time, NT stood for "Not Tested". Remember that Windows NT used to crash after 49.71 days when the uptime counter overflowed. Most people never noticed this because the server would crash for other reasons long before that.

It was windows "No Thanks" in my circles. But win 2000 was a gem - I liked it much more than XP back in the day.

Re: It's time to bring back Windows NT

#14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no *NIX/BSD side to speak of. I mean, sure, as a server Linux is exceptional. But as a client it is not even competitive in the business environment. It isn't cost effective, time effective, or even well supported.

What do you think OSX is based on?

I wouldn't use OSX in an enterprise either. For almost exactly the same reasons.

Re: It's time to bring back Windows NT

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I made tons of cash developing for NT both for clients and for myself. I loved the platform and loved clear, well defined and well documented set of Win32 API's, exceptional debugging tools and development tools. And then came Ballmer with his complete lack of vision, absence of creativity, bigger-than-god ego and "me-too" business strategy producing nothing but mediocre and frustrating copycat products and services.

I deviated from development for Microsoft platform as it became overbloated with useless and then quietly abandoned with layers and layers of miscellaneous technologies.

Microsoft superiority is gradually rusting away by more creative and intelligent tools and solutions from other vendors. Until Ballmer is there - I do not think we can see any major improvements or anything even close to revolutionary new directions.

I wish Bill Gates would take a few months break from developing advanced toilets for Africa and clean up his old beautiful house, starting from the attic.

Re: It's time to bring back Windows NT

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is no *NIX/BSD side to speak of. I mean, sure, as a server Linux is exceptional. But as a client it is not even competitive in the business environment. It isn't cost effective, time effective, or even well supported.

I hope to see a day when the perception of modern Linux environments will change. Ubuntu for example is more than capable of being used in a business environment.

You can use anything in an enterprise if you have infinite budgets and time.

Ubuntu is easily the furthest any Linux vendor has come at producing a workable client, but there is still a long way to go.

Right now managing Ubuntu centrally is painful - I mean having it hook into Kerberos is easy enough but that only gives you control over users and remote files, you still have little control or visibility over the client OS its self.

Re: It's time to bring back Windows NT

#18
I think using Windows Server Core nodes for actual work and a dedicated node for administration and UI has more potential than Windows NT ever had. And honestly, Windows NT was a nightmare. It seemed compatible with Win95/98, but wasn't entirely. And I'm not talking about DirectX here. Back in the days, a HP-67 was a major innovation and some people didn't know what they ever did before getting one, but no one would really want them back today, right?

Re: It's time to bring back Windows NT

#20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For a long time, NT stood for "Not Tested". Remember that Windows NT used to crash after 49.71 days when the uptime counter overflowed. Most people never noticed this because the server would crash for other reasons long before that.

It was windows "No Thanks" in my circles. But win 2000 was a gem - I liked it much more than XP back in the day.

Win2k was as good as Microsoft got. Reliable, stable, functional. Happily that was the last Windows platform I developed for.
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