LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI • Hacker News Board

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by rustc » Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 4:23 PM UTC

SmeelBe wrote: post #8

true tweet! - https://twitter.com/iconfinder/status/309337478207262720

Looks like it was deleted. What was it?

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by sergiotapia » Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 4:24 PM UTC

JCB_K wrote: post #10

mnicole wrote: post #3

Am I understanding this right; that LayerVault is trying to claim that they are the sole owners of the flat UI trend? I'm sorry Allan, I've been a fan of yours since before LayerVault was even launched, but this is really low. And if I'm remembering correctly, this isn't the first time you guys have harassed someone about using "your" aesthetic.

What he said is that he is "the exclusive rights holder for the artwork contained within Flat UI". Presumably he's referring to Flat UI the UI Kit, not Flat UI the general trend.

_BUT_ as mentioned in the Github thread, FlatUI framework does NOT use any artwork from LayerVault.

All of their assets were created in-house by DesginModo's designers..

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by throwaway420 » Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 4:26 PM UTC

Without some extraordinary explanation by Layer Vault detailing an actual theft of files or copying of their actual work, it sounds like Layer Vault just did a major scumbag move that harms designers everywhere.

And that's a shame because I like Layer Vault a lot.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by ajross » Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 4:27 PM UTC

Can someone please summarize for those of us not plugged in to the web UI framework (or whatever this is) community? I'm seeing entities like "LayerVault" and "Flat UI" and products (?) named "trend" that I've never heard of.

Is this an abuse of process I should actually care about or is it just a "who did what?" spit between estranged developers?

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by mnicole » Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 4:28 PM UTC

JCB_K wrote: post #10

mnicole wrote: post #3

Am I understanding this right; that LayerVault is trying to claim that they are the sole owners of the flat UI trend? I'm sorry Allan, I've been a fan of yours since before LayerVault was even launched, but this is really low. And if I'm remembering correctly, this isn't the first time you guys have harassed someone about using "your" aesthetic.

What he said is that he is "the exclusive rights holder for the artwork contained within Flat UI". Presumably he's referring to Flat UI the UI Kit, not Flat UI the general trend.

TIL solid colors constitute artwork now. Please excuse me, I've got some baseless, reputation-damaging takedown notices to file. Maybe next they can go after everyone that participated in http://dribbble.com/shots/911303-Designer-News-App-Icon-Play...

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by arkitaip » Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 4:28 PM UTC

bluetidepro wrote: post #7

Whether this is true or false, I see this hurting LayerVault more than it's worth fighting. It will be interesting to see this play out.

Agreed. Imagine if LayerVault had taken a more transparent and community oriented approach and said: hey guys, the flat gui project is really cool and we're delighted that it got inspired by our stuff, namely x, y, z (comparison screenshots).

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by saiko-chriskun » Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 4:29 PM UTC

anyone manage to clone the repo?

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by drharris » Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 4:29 PM UTC

sergiotapia wrote: post #12

JCB_K wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What he said is that he is "the exclusive rights holder for the artwork contained within Flat UI". Presumably he's referring to Flat UI the UI Kit, not Flat UI the general trend.

_BUT_ as mentioned in the Github thread, FlatUI framework does NOT use any artwork from LayerVault. All of their assets were created in-house by DesginModo's designers..

Well, that remains to be seen. Looking at both websites, it's difficult to tell what they are talking about. Flat-UI doesn't seem to have any assets that mirror anything on LayerVault's. They need to be more specific.

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by Pyramids » Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 4:31 PM UTC

Filing a counter notification is extremely straightforward, and moves this to a court dispute, which will almost undoubtedly never happen.

You can use Chilling Effects Counter-Notification generator to automate the process:

http://www.chillingeffects.org/dmca/counter512.pdf

For those who are unfamiliar with DMCA notices, in short:

1. Content Provider Receives DMCA

2. Content Provider must act 'expeditiously' to remove content which is claimed to be infringing

3. Individual has an opportunity to submit a counter notification to their content provider, in which case the content can be reinstated after 10 business days regardless of the other parties claims. (Unless an injunction is obtained.)

4. Any further action is only by legal means (court injunction)

Disclaimer: IANAL (yet)

Re: LayerVault Sends DMCA Takedown Letter re Flat-UI

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Post by bencevans » Wed, Mar 06, 2013, 4:31 PM UTC

ajross wrote: post #14

Can someone please summarize for those of us not plugged in to the web UI framework (or whatever this is) community? I'm seeing entities like "LayerVault" and "Flat UI" and products (?) named "trend" that I've never heard of. Is this an abuse of process I should actually care about or is it just a "who did what?" spit between estranged developers?

Flat UI (http://designmodo.github.com/Flat-UI/) in an open source project along the same lines as Twitter Bootstrap. or another bootstrappable interface framework.

LayerVault (https://layervault.com/) are a company that provide a version control system for design work.