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Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

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Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#11

Post by dave1010uk »

It will be interesting to see how many (if any) HTML features they've dropped by switching to WebKit/Chromium. CanIUse [0] shows the latest Presto-based Opera having the following features that Chrome on Android doesn't:

    getUserMedia/Stream API
    Shared Web Workers
    CSS3 object-fit/object-position
    Color input type
    Drag and Drop
    Datalist element
    WebGL - 3D Canvas graphics (partial support)
[0] http://caniuse.com/#compare=op_mob+12.1,and_chr+0

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#13

Post by bgarbiak »

dave1010uk wrote: post #11

It will be interesting to see how many (if any) HTML features they've dropped by switching to WebKit/Chromium. CanIUse [0] shows the latest Presto-based Opera having the following features that Chrome on Android doesn't: getUserMedia/Stream API Shared Web Workers CSS3 object-fit/object-position Color input type Drag and Drop Datalist element WebGL - 3D Canvas graphics (partial support) [0] http://caniuse.com/#compare…

According to the official blog post at http://my.opera.com/ODIN/blog/ Opera 14 for Android is based on AppleWebKit/537.22 and Chrome/25.0.1364.123 but with added support for:

    input type=color
    Microdata
    WebGL 3D context
    CSS3 @supports

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#15

Post by infinita740 »

vladev wrote: post #9

For me, the killer feature of Opera has always been the ability to reflow text to fit any size and zoom. Can anyone confirm this is still in?

I just downloaded it and tested that, it's not present, zooming is now as bad as in other android browsers (but some of the HN comments are in bigger size than others so there is no need to zoom, it's quite a strange behavior though)

Also as another user pointed it, tabs on the top is not practical and unreachable (especially on big devices like samsung GS3)

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#16

Post by gcp »

simfoo wrote: post #6

Have been using it for the past 10 minutes. It's considerably slower than the stock browser in 2.3.7. Also, using 36MB is kind of unacceptable - I only have less than 100MB internal storage on my Galaxy Ace.

Normal size for all browsers that have to bundle the entire rendering engine. Chrome is 50Mish, Firefox 30Mish, last time I checked.

Only the built-in-browser-skins are smaller.

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#17

Post by ZoFreX »

infinita740 wrote: post #15
vladev wrote: post #9

For me, the killer feature of Opera has always been the ability to reflow text to fit any size and zoom. Can anyone confirm this is still in?

I just downloaded it and tested that, it's not present, zooming is now as bad as in other android browsers (but some of the HN comments are in bigger size than others so there is no need to zoom, it's quite a strange behavior though) Also as another user pointed it, tabs on the top is not practical and unreachable (especially on big devices like samsung GS3)

How about the "scrolling guides" when you're zoomed? Not sure if there's a proper name for that, but with Opera when I zoomed and the text reflowed, it would lock me to vertical scrolling only as long as I don't wiggle too far horizontally. Easily my favourite thing about it.

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#18

Post by ZoFreX »

gcp wrote: post #16
simfoo wrote: post #6

Have been using it for the past 10 minutes. It's considerably slower than the stock browser in 2.3.7. Also, using 36MB is kind of unacceptable - I only have less than 100MB internal storage on my Galaxy Ace.

Normal size for all browsers that have to bundle the entire rendering engine. Chrome is 50Mish, Firefox 30Mish, last time I checked. Only the built-in-browser-skins are smaller.

I have Opera installed on my Ace for two reasons:

1. Speed 2. Size

If it's slower than stock and takes up a similar amount of space to Firefox... then there's no reason for me not to use Firefox.

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#19

Post by dysoco »

ZoFreX wrote: post #18
gcp wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Normal size for all browsers that have to bundle the entire rendering engine. Chrome is 50Mish, Firefox 30Mish, last time I checked. Only the built-in-browser-skins are smaller.

I have Opera installed on my Ace for two reasons: 1. Speed 2. Size If it's slower than stock and takes up a similar amount of space to Firefox... then there's no reason for me not to use Firefox.

Can you install Firefox in the Ace? I have the same phone and I can't.

Re: Opera’s new Android beta is out, and it includes some pretty big changes

#20

Post by fyzlman »

ZoFreX wrote: post #18
gcp wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Normal size for all browsers that have to bundle the entire rendering engine. Chrome is 50Mish, Firefox 30Mish, last time I checked. Only the built-in-browser-skins are smaller.

I have Opera installed on my Ace for two reasons: 1. Speed 2. Size If it's slower than stock and takes up a similar amount of space to Firefox... then there's no reason for me not to use Firefox.

How do you install Firefox (or Chrome) in Ace?
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