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Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

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Re: Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

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Post by rm999 »

danmaz74 wrote: post #9

After years of the highest satisfaction with Chrome on Windows, lately I've been experiencing many annoying crashes. This is also true for some people I know. For myself, it might depend on the fact that I'm using more extensions now, but that isn't true, for example, for my father. I don't want to imply anything, but this reminds me of when I switched from Netscape Navigator to IE back in the day, not because IE was…

I've found Chrome (and all browsers in this day and age, for that matter) to be quite stable, and I haven't heard complaints from others. Before switching browsers (which can be pretty inconvenient) it may be worth debugging if this is an issue with your system in general rather than the browser.

Have you and your father tried the advice on this page? http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ans...

Re: Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

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Post by Samuel_Michon »

danmaz74 wrote: post #9

After years of the highest satisfaction with Chrome on Windows, lately I've been experiencing many annoying crashes. This is also true for some people I know. For myself, it might depend on the fact that I'm using more extensions now, but that isn't true, for example, for my father. I don't want to imply anything, but this reminds me of when I switched from Netscape Navigator to IE back in the day, not because IE was…

Periodically clearing the browsing data, AppData and %TEMP folders does the trick for me. In my experience, that's not Chrome specific; all web browsers get bogged down over time. In the same vein, it's good to do a clean install of your OS once a year.

Re: Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

#13

Post by Samuel_Michon »

csulok wrote: post #2

on arstechnica.com. it's highest everywhere else.

I'm assuming you mean Chrome has the highest desktop market share overall. That jibes with the browser stats for my own websites. On mobile, Safari reigns supreme. And as more people browse the web on mobile devices, WebKit based browsers continue to grab market share from Internet Explorer.

Re: Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

#14

Post by danmaz74 »

rm999 wrote: post #11
danmaz74 wrote: post #9

After years of the highest satisfaction with Chrome on Windows, lately I've been experiencing many annoying crashes. This is also true for some people I know. For myself, it might depend on the fact that I'm using more extensions now, but that isn't true, for example, for my father. I don't want to imply anything, but this reminds me of when I switched from Netscape Navigator to IE back in the day, not because IE was…

I've found Chrome (and all browsers in this day and age, for that matter) to be quite stable, and I haven't heard complaints from others. Before switching browsers (which can be pretty inconvenient) it may be worth debugging if this is an issue with your system in general rather than the browser. Have you and your father tried the advice on this page? http://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ans...

I didn't; thank you for your suggestion, I'll check those suggestions out the next time I'm on Windows.

Re: Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

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Post by danmaz74 »

Samuel_Michon wrote: post #12
danmaz74 wrote: post #9

After years of the highest satisfaction with Chrome on Windows, lately I've been experiencing many annoying crashes. This is also true for some people I know. For myself, it might depend on the fact that I'm using more extensions now, but that isn't true, for example, for my father. I don't want to imply anything, but this reminds me of when I switched from Netscape Navigator to IE back in the day, not because IE was…

Periodically clearing the browsing data, AppData and %TEMP folders does the trick for me. In my experience, that's not Chrome specific; all web browsers get bogged down over time. In the same vein, it's good to do a clean install of your OS once a year.

I stopped periodically reinstalling my OS since windows 2k... and wouldn't like to start again :)

Re: Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

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Post by meaty »

I'm not surprised.

I know no one who has upgraded to windows 8. I got 5 free copies with my MSDN sub and one got claimed before I deleted the VM. Considering I work for a Microsoft partner with 180 staff, we have one windows 8 machine and its an RT Surface used by QA. We have 4 VMs for testing as well which never visit the www at all. We have more Macs in the office!

Chrome I find to be slightly obtuse and buggy. Constant tab crashes and hangs and I'm really not sure its that fast. Friends seem to have the same opinion. One complaint I hear is that people are constantly prompted to sign into chrome. We're pretty much all back on Firefox and IE.

Meh.

Re: Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

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Post by mythz »

xutopia wrote: post #6
justinschuh wrote: post #3

I've never been able to make sense of Net Market Share's numbers or why they're so wildly divergent from nearly every other source. Just take a look at the big ones listed on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Sum... The other stats sources consistently align in a pretty narrow range of around 2%-7% for any given browser. But Net Market Share consistently shows Chrome as more than 10%…

I just started a conversation on Twitter with the author. https://twitter.com/garyharan/status/307905674279518208

Our tech site (servicestack.net) last month stats:

  - Chrome 59%
  - Firefox 18% 
  - IE 8.7%

Re: Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

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Post by anonymfus »

justinschuh wrote: post #3

I've never been able to make sense of Net Market Share's numbers or why they're so wildly divergent from nearly every other source. Just take a look at the big ones listed on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Sum... The other stats sources consistently align in a pretty narrow range of around 2%-7% for any given browser. But Net Market Share consistently shows Chrome as more than 10%…

They weight results against number of internet users in different countries according to CIA, most of others don't weight. Major source of difference is China, just select China on StatCounter and see.

Re: Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

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Post by cooldeal »

justinschuh wrote: post #3

I've never been able to make sense of Net Market Share's numbers or why they're so wildly divergent from nearly every other source. Just take a look at the big ones listed on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Sum... The other stats sources consistently align in a pretty narrow range of around 2%-7% for any given browser. But Net Market Share consistently shows Chrome as more than 10%…

I believe this explains it:

One big difference is that NetMarketShare tries to measure unique clients, while StatCounter measures web page hits.

Since the power users browse (probably a magnitude of order) more web pages than the normal users, Chrome and Firefox is overrepresented in power users who browse a ton.

Toothpaste marketshare analogy. It's possible that 70% of people use Colgate and 30% use Crest, but Colgate sales by volume are only 40% vs. 60% for Crest, since Crest users tend to brush more daily and use more of the toothpaste when they do for some reason.

Or a car analogy: Toyota sells 40% of cars and Honda only 30%, but 60% of miles driven on roads are by Honda cars since they use it more. Which has a higher marketshare?

Re: Chrome hits 17-month low, Windows 8 still only creeping upward

#20

Post by xutopia »

cooldeal wrote: post #19
justinschuh wrote: post #3

I've never been able to make sense of Net Market Share's numbers or why they're so wildly divergent from nearly every other source. Just take a look at the big ones listed on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_web_browsers#Sum... The other stats sources consistently align in a pretty narrow range of around 2%-7% for any given browser. But Net Market Share consistently shows Chrome as more than 10%…

I believe this explains it: One big difference is that NetMarketShare tries to measure unique clients, while StatCounter measures web page hits. Since the power users browse (probably a magnitude of order) more web pages than the normal users, Chrome and Firefox is overrepresented in power users who browse a ton. Toothpaste marketshare analogy. It's possible that 70% of people use Colgate and 30% use Crest, but Colga…

So from what I gather NetMarketShare measures number of users more closely than does StatCounter. Statcounter OTOH measures how much traffic use there really is.
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