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Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by patrickaljord »

pinaceae wrote: post #4

the big question is though, can Google also be awesome in Services going forward? i am loyal user of chrome, gmail, search, youtube, maps, picasa - in this order. none of which is younger than what, 5 years? innovation in those items? gmail got a new UI, but else? where are the BETA products? used to be the awesomeness of Google. ever since Page took over, they've been killing the small, useful things. ok, they want…

Google Chrome initial release is September 2, 2008. So it's less than 5 years old. Also Android, Google+/Hangouts, Google Voice are pretty nice and yes, ChromeOS is getting better all the time.

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by taligent »

patrickaljord wrote: post #10
taligent wrote: post #6

The premise is pretty stupid. Firstly Apple does do services. They run the world's biggest media store, the world's biggest syncing platform and a semi popular email service. Sure they aren't perfect but they can be considered successes for the most part. And the point about hardware is completely misguided. Apple's true strength has never been their ability to build a well designed machine. It is the fact that they…

So Google just released a laptop that is actually better than an MBA and you think Apple shouldn't take Google seriously? Good thing you're not running Apple.

I think Apple should take every competitor seriously and I am sure they do.

My point is that Google has a history of being unable to ship anything properly. And until we see them do so and with a sizable profit margin then they shouldn't be considered in the same league as Apple. And the important skill is not making the laptop it's in the supply chain management.

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by bitL »

I am not really happy that Google is cloning all successful approaches from various companies with slight modifications to suit their own purposes. First Facebook, now Apple. Where is that amazing, creative, innovative company I once admired? It's like Microsoft all over again.

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by mailarchis »

bitL wrote: post #13

I am not really happy that Google is cloning all successful approaches from various companies with slight modifications to suit their own purposes. First Facebook, now Apple. Where is that amazing, creative, innovative company I once admired? It's like Microsoft all over again.

Well you are not taking into consideration google glass and self driving cars.

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Post by kmfrk »

bitL wrote: post #13

I am not really happy that Google is cloning all successful approaches from various companies with slight modifications to suit their own purposes. First Facebook, now Apple. Where is that amazing, creative, innovative company I once admired? It's like Microsoft all over again.

They seem to have done a pretty good job at their equivalent of Siri, though. The synthesized voice sounds much better, from what I've heard.

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Post by taligent »

pinaceae wrote: post #4

the big question is though, can Google also be awesome in Services going forward? i am loyal user of chrome, gmail, search, youtube, maps, picasa - in this order. none of which is younger than what, 5 years? innovation in those items? gmail got a new UI, but else? where are the BETA products? used to be the awesomeness of Google. ever since Page took over, they've been killing the small, useful things. ok, they want…

Don't forget that they acquired YouTube, Maps, Picasa, Android and Chrome is a wrapper around WebKit.

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by patrickaljord »

taligent wrote: post #12
patrickaljord wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So Google just released a laptop that is actually better than an MBA and you think Apple shouldn't take Google seriously? Good thing you're not running Apple.

I think Apple should take every competitor seriously and I am sure they do. My point is that Google has a history of being unable to ship anything properly. And until we see them do so and with a sizable profit margin then they shouldn't be considered in the same league as Apple. And the important skill is not making the laptop it's in the supply chain management.

You just said "nobody will or should take them seriously" and now you're saying Apple should take them seriously. Google shipped tons of products properly, if you're talking about nexus devices, they don't even advertise those much, they're more of a testbed for what's coming.

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by taligent »

mailarchis wrote: post #14
bitL wrote: post #13

I am not really happy that Google is cloning all successful approaches from various companies with slight modifications to suit their own purposes. First Facebook, now Apple. Where is that amazing, creative, innovative company I once admired? It's like Microsoft all over again.

Well you are not taking into consideration google glass and self driving cars.

You do realise that Google didn't invent self driving cars and that they aren't even leading the industry.

Mercedes Benz demoed the technology nearly 20 years ago and will be shipping cars along with Audi, Volvo etc en masse over the coming years. In fact every single notable car manufacturer has had their own program in place for decades.

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Post by wjk »

pinaceae wrote: post #4

the big question is though, can Google also be awesome in Services going forward? i am loyal user of chrome, gmail, search, youtube, maps, picasa - in this order. none of which is younger than what, 5 years? innovation in those items? gmail got a new UI, but else? where are the BETA products? used to be the awesomeness of Google. ever since Page took over, they've been killing the small, useful things. ok, they want…

Sure, the innovation in those items are pretty much non-existent (except for search which improves often with very interesting new features), and i think thats perfectly fine. I'd much rather have them focus on "futuristic" things such as Glass and Cars than have them trying to become the leaders in cloud providing, storage etc.

Re: Google is getting better at what Apple does best faster than Apple

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Post by XorNot »

bitL wrote: post #13

I am not really happy that Google is cloning all successful approaches from various companies with slight modifications to suit their own purposes. First Facebook, now Apple. Where is that amazing, creative, innovative company I once admired? It's like Microsoft all over again.

If someone gets it about right already, why would I want to change it up? Change for changes sake is generally bad. If someone has a good idea for a feature or interface, then hell yeah I would hope others would emulate and refine it.
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