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Some Internet Archive employees to receive some of their pay in Bitcoin in April

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Re: Some Internet Archive employees to receive some of their pay in Bitcoin in April

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I found the title of this post to be misleading or at least stressing its point. The article says "Some Internet Archive employees have elected to receive some of their pay in Bitcoin in April." so it's not all employees, not all of their pay and not all of the time, as I expected from the headline.

I totally agree. This should really be changed.

Giving employees the option to take pay in bitcoins is a completely different issue to mandating it, as the title seems to imply.

Re: Some Internet Archive employees to receive some of their pay in Bitcoin in April

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Interesting to know how the tax on these bitcoins would work. Would this count as a taxable perk? If so, would that count as the government counting their existence and value?

I can't talk for the IA, but in the UK the situation is absolutely yes, they would be taxed. Any payment of any kind, or any benefit in kind, is taxable (and the tax paid in cash, not bitcoins!), apart from a few specified exemptions.

Re: Some Internet Archive employees to receive some of their pay in Bitcoin in April

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Interesting to know how the tax on these bitcoins would work. Would this count as a taxable perk? If so, would that count as the government counting their existence and value?

I think the taxes would be fairly easy to figure out, no different than if you paid in gold or beanie babies or Euros. It doesn't really give bitcoins any special status or legitimacy for the IRS to do this.

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post #13

Interesting to know how the tax on these bitcoins would work. Would this count as a taxable perk? If so, would that count as the government counting their existence and value?

I can't talk for the IA, but in the UK the situation is absolutely yes, they would be taxed. Any payment of any kind, or any benefit in kind, is taxable (and the tax paid in cash, not bitcoins!), apart from a few specified exemptions.

they would be taxable, how they would be taxed though is an entirely differnt question. Would they be considered the same as being paid you usual wages and therefore taxed as income? Or taxed like gold, i.e.not taxed until you sell? or perhaps like a stock, a capital gains tax is charged so you pay for any gain they have made since you reeived them? Willing to bet that HMRC has not even considerd it yet.

Re: Some Internet Archive employees to receive some of their pay in Bitcoin in April

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Yay no taxes, the end of civilization.

A very US view of things, many people are happy to pay taxes as they understand that they derive a benefit from doing so. The US has such an anti-tax stance that you just assume people would avoid paying taxes if it was easy to do so.

Re: Some Internet Archive employees to receive some of their pay in Bitcoin in April

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Slightly OT: Why would you ever put a QR code on a web page instead of a link? If I'm on my computer, I'm not going to pull out my phone to scan it. If I'm on my phone, how would I even scan it?

In general, I completely agree (though I have never seen it happen before). This is not a link, however, but a bitcoin address encoded as a QR code. I - as do many others - have a Bitcoin wallet application with some change on my phone. Having the QR code here makes it easier to contribute something.

Bitcoin addresses can be URIs: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/URI_Scheme

Re: Some Internet Archive employees to receive some of their pay in Bitcoin in April

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't talk for the IA, but in the UK the situation is absolutely yes, they would be taxed. Any payment of any kind, or any benefit in kind, is taxable (and the tax paid in cash, not bitcoins!), apart from a few specified exemptions.

they would be taxable, how they would be taxed though is an entirely differnt question. Would they be considered the same as being paid you usual wages and therefore taxed as income? Or taxed like gold, i.e.not taxed until you sell? or perhaps like a stock, a capital gains tax is charged so you pay for any gain they have made since you reeived them? Willing to bet that HMRC has not even considerd it yet.

In the US, if you are paid in gold, it's still taxed as income. Then you are taxed when you sell the gold on capital gains on the difference between the market value when you received it and when you sold it. There's no loophole that allows avoiding paying income tax just because you are paid differently.

Re: Some Internet Archive employees to receive some of their pay in Bitcoin in April

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can't talk for the IA, but in the UK the situation is absolutely yes, they would be taxed. Any payment of any kind, or any benefit in kind, is taxable (and the tax paid in cash, not bitcoins!), apart from a few specified exemptions.

they would be taxable, how they would be taxed though is an entirely differnt question. Would they be considered the same as being paid you usual wages and therefore taxed as income? Or taxed like gold, i.e.not taxed until you sell? or perhaps like a stock, a capital gains tax is charged so you pay for any gain they have made since you reeived them? Willing to bet that HMRC has not even considerd it yet.

I imagine they would be taxed the same as any American paid wages in a non-US currency (i.e. Americans working overseas). This wouldn't be a groundbreaking situation.
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