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Instrumachines and the Evolution of Electronic Music Performance

bryank.im

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Re: Instrumachines and the Evolution of Electronic Music Performance

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Here's such music you don't need to ignore. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTx3G6h2xyA

you know, i remember being obsessed with this vid when it came out. i'm embarrassed i didn't work this into the essay. i might need to...

Re: Instrumachines and the Evolution of Electronic Music Performance

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Hey guys, I wrote this thing. And I know there must be disagreements with the arguments here. Bring it on!

Actually, I mostly agree, despite going in thinking I wouldn't. Girl Talk is terribly boring live. There are many better, more creative artists in the EDM world. Araabmuzik as mentioned, RJD2 is a genre bending turntablist/synth junky/live performer, Pretty Lights mashes buttons on a monome and plays live with a drummer, and I think The Hood Internet does much better mash ups and has a better live show than Girl Talk (though they don't do the instrumachine thing so much).

I don't think I fully agree with 'the assumption that electronic music is the future'. It will be part of the future, but analog/traditional instruments will always be around, and will always be a significant portion of what music is created and what music is listened to.

Instrumachines aren't necessarily new, I'd even say the original electronic synthesizers of the 60s and 70s fall into the category. The just evolved into things with keyboards so they kind of got lumped into the 'instrument' category. I was glad you brought up turntablism, another example.

Re: Instrumachines and the Evolution of Electronic Music Performance

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Wow. That music is incredibly annoying.

To each their own. However, it helps if you define which music you find annoying. There are 3 distinct styles of music being mixed in those videos. Araab's was one I enjoy. #2 was ok, #3 sounded bad and the guy looked like a 3 year old hitting blocks into a Fisher Price toy. Had no sense of the skill level executed by Araab and #2.

Re: Instrumachines and the Evolution of Electronic Music Performance

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Hey guys, I wrote this thing. And I know there must be disagreements with the arguments here. Bring it on!

But can you really dance to it? Is it fun to those just listening? My first impression is that this is just a vain and boring exhibitionism of technical virtuosity, like those fast and boring guitar players (Steve Vai, Yngwie Malmsteen, etc) or those endlessly screaming pop divas (Celine Dion, Whitney Houston, etc.) just to show off.

I'd be curious to know if you create music or are just a listener. It's easy for someone who doesn't actually write music to write off a lot of that as "boring exhibitionism". But if you watch those guys play or talk about music, a lot of times you genuinely get the feeling that that's just what they hear it in their head. It's just how music is supposed to be to them.

I'm a guitar player myself, and don't really care for Vai/Satriani type stuff; there's just something missing. I have been getting into some more recent progressive shred and am having a hard time finding anybody that seems to really be pushing the genre forward as much as Tosin Abasi and Javier Reyes. Both are extremely talented and just seem to "get it". Another guy who is right up there is Paul Ortiz. He's got some pretty serious keyboard chops, too.

Re: Instrumachines and the Evolution of Electronic Music Performance

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Hey guys, I wrote this thing. And I know there must be disagreements with the arguments here. Bring it on!

Actually, I mostly agree, despite going in thinking I wouldn't. Girl Talk is terribly boring live. There are many better, more creative artists in the EDM world. Araabmuzik as mentioned, RJD2 is a genre bending turntablist/synth junky/live performer, Pretty Lights mashes buttons on a monome and plays live with a drummer, and I think The Hood Internet does much better mash ups and has a better live show than Girl Talk…

I mostly agree with you here, I think we're just starting from different starting points. The "electronic music is future" thing is sort of a counter statement to the idea that EDM is a trend. My only argument is that electronic music will only dig it's claws into popular music. I'm not suggesting that analog instruments die completely. At least I hope not.

I know the synths are a good example of a legit hardware instrument. From the fan's perspective though, it largely mimics the skill of a pianist (even if you upload crazy other sounds into the keys). I'm more interested when we start respecting performers who play instruments conceived entirely in the digital era, with very little vestigial leftover from the analog instruments. Just the concept of that is cool to me.

As for RJD2, that's a big omission on my part, I was such a huge fan in the early 2000s. And also PL, more recently.

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