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Introducing The Paper Bay

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Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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post #5

Very good. But I'd love to have just seen the pirate bay duplicate itself and to create a site exclusively for academic papers. Seeding of obscure papers might be an issue, but I'm sure that it would work quite well.

When you download a paper from JSTOR or ScienceDirect, it is quite easy for them to add various watermarks to the PDF, and they already do (mildly). It might make it harder to scale this concept if the provider can track down who initially downloaded the paper (and presumably shared it).

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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post #11
post #5

Very good. But I'd love to have just seen the pirate bay duplicate itself and to create a site exclusively for academic papers. Seeding of obscure papers might be an issue, but I'm sure that it would work quite well.

When you download a paper from JSTOR or ScienceDirect, it is quite easy for them to add various watermarks to the PDF, and they already do (mildly). It might make it harder to scale this concept if the provider can track down who initially downloaded the paper (and presumably shared it).

request several incarnations and junk the diff

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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With the exception of old and obscure papers (i.e., 15 years or more and not cited in the last 5 years), I don't really see what the big problem is. I have yet to mail an author and not receive a pdf of the paper, usually within days, sometimes within minutes. When you have a reference and Google, you're seconds away from finding that author's current affiliation & email address. I once emailed the author of a book that retailed for 150$+ on some Elsevier subsidiary to ask for a few pages. Turns out the book was basically her PhD thesis (many, many books are like that) and she send me the pdf of that thesis a few hours after I emailed her. All this brouhaha over access to papers is a storm in a glass water if you ask me, instigated mostly by those who don't even need the papers but rather are looking for a big meany to pick an ideological fight with. Maybe it differs per field, I don't know.

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

#15

Already featuring a request for "cocaine," no author given. Relying on the benevolence of others may only go so far...

Not any more...

Of course the 'abuse angle' was taken into account, it's a bit annoying but any user facing service will have that aspect.

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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Nice idea. Perhaps evolving this to include raw research data could be interesting... e.g. may I please have a) your research paper and b) the 20Gb of trial data you used to come to your conclusions. With this I'll run my own experiments, expanding on your trials and hopefully adding to the wealth of knowledge you so wonderfully kick started. Cheers.

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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post #17

Nice idea. Perhaps evolving this to include raw research data could be interesting... e.g. may I please have a) your research paper and b) the 20Gb of trial data you used to come to your conclusions. With this I'll run my own experiments, expanding on your trials and hopefully adding to the wealth of knowledge you so wonderfully kick started. Cheers.

Yeah sure, here you go. Sincerely, Ms Kate Awesome, Phd

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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post #8
post #7

While I agree with the "manifesto", the solution seems to be not that much radical. There are many places where people can upload their papers. Moreover, a web1.0 interface does not seems to be efficient. In that line there is already: http://www.pirateuniversity.org/ And... judging by it's name (i.e. The Paper Bay) I would expect something much more radical, actually aiming at getting 75TB of _any_ paper content...

Give it some time ;)

Sure. Especially as from links there I'm aware that you are aware of other solutions. :)

So, a reliable, automated and anonymous (?) way to upload books/papers seems to be a must. Or do you have other plans?

Re: Introducing The Paper Bay

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post #14

With the exception of old and obscure papers (i.e., 15 years or more and not cited in the last 5 years), I don't really see what the big problem is. I have yet to mail an author and not receive a pdf of the paper, usually within days, sometimes within minutes. When you have a reference and Google, you're seconds away from finding that author's current affiliation & email address. I once emailed the author of a book t…

Good luck with emailing authors of papers which are 70 years old. In mathematics good results never outdate, so there is no rule of thumb "if it is still relevant, author must be still alive".
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