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'Artificial' earthquake detected in North Korea may be nuclear test

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Re: 'Artificial' earthquake detected in North Korea may be nuclear test

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Why is it wrong that NK do Nuclear testing? I agree NK has some human rights issues, that should be addressed, but testing nuclear weapons is no different to Pakistan or India, and there are no sanctions against them.

Seriously? 'some human rights issues'? There could be up to 200,000 political prisoners in North Korean gulags. It's an extreme dictatorship.

Re: 'Artificial' earthquake detected in North Korea may be nuclear test

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post #6

Why is it wrong that NK do Nuclear testing? I agree NK has some human rights issues, that should be addressed, but testing nuclear weapons is no different to Pakistan or India, and there are no sanctions against them.

Pakistan and India haven't closed off so many diplomatic options that direct economic pressure is the only option.

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post #7

So when they did this in 2006, the UN issued weapons sanctions against North Korea[1]. Then when they did it again in 2009, the UN issued more sanctions[2] that apparently NK considered an 'act of war'. From them, the world has intercepted a whopping 6 North Korean boats and 1 North Korean airplane. Aside from "issuing even more sanctions" what options are available to the UN? Good luck trying to send in a team of pe…

For decades that's been the problem. South Korea's population centers are too close to the North for an attack to be a reasonable risk: even decades-old artillery and unguided rockets can hit Seoul, launched from hundreds of dug-in sites. So things have been organized around trying to pressure North Korea in various ways, either via China, or directly, but without force being a seriously considered option.

Yep. This is what happens when you expand too close to the enemy's base..

Re: 'Artificial' earthquake detected in North Korea may be nuclear test

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post #6

Why is it wrong that NK do Nuclear testing? I agree NK has some human rights issues, that should be addressed, but testing nuclear weapons is no different to Pakistan or India, and there are no sanctions against them.

It's the manner with which they're conducting the tests. Do you think nuclear testing should be done in private by an authoritarian regime, or do you think it should be done with the acceptance and supervision of the world's scientists?

Erm... you mean like Pakistan did?

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post #11
post #6

Why is it wrong that NK do Nuclear testing? I agree NK has some human rights issues, that should be addressed, but testing nuclear weapons is no different to Pakistan or India, and there are no sanctions against them.

Seriously? 'some human rights issues'? There could be up to 200,000 political prisoners in North Korean gulags. It's an extreme dictatorship.

Yes, they are severe. my 'some' wasn't refering to the severity of the issues.

Regardless this has nothing to do with whether sanctions should be applied for testing weapons.

Re: 'Artificial' earthquake detected in North Korea may be nuclear test

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post #6

Why is it wrong that NK do Nuclear testing? I agree NK has some human rights issues, that should be addressed, but testing nuclear weapons is no different to Pakistan or India, and there are no sanctions against them.

NK is aiming the weapon at US and its allies, unlike India or Pakistan who aim at each other. B.R. Myer's talk explains the motive behind NK's nuclear program pretty well. http://www.booktv.org/Watch/11315/The+Cleanest+Race+How+Nort...

Right, so it makes sense that the US would be worried... not why the UN should sanction them.

I'm referring to the inconsistency. The implication of what you are saying is: "The UN only intervenes when it suits the US". To me that makes me think LESS of the UN sanctions, not more.

Re: 'Artificial' earthquake detected in North Korea may be nuclear test

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post #6

Why is it wrong that NK do Nuclear testing? I agree NK has some human rights issues, that should be addressed, but testing nuclear weapons is no different to Pakistan or India, and there are no sanctions against them.

It's the manner with which they're conducting the tests. Do you think nuclear testing should be done in private by an authoritarian regime, or do you think it should be done with the acceptance and supervision of the world's scientists?

In their last round of tests neither Pakistan nor India performed them "with the acceptance and supervision of the world's scientists".

US intelligence was completely wrongfooted at the time of India's five Pokhran-II tests.

Re: 'Artificial' earthquake detected in North Korea may be nuclear test

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My father-in-law was a VP in Northrop Grumman's space and satellite division. The kinds of projects he worked on were space defense satellites.

When he looked at all the uncertainty in the world (much caused at least indirectly by the US), his biggest fear was and continues to be North Korea.

Given the types of people I know he met with, this test does not fill me with warm fuzzies.

Re: 'Artificial' earthquake detected in North Korea may be nuclear test

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This is sensationalist news at its finest. There is only one way to confirm that a nuclear bomb test has occurred and it is not by measuring 'resulting' earthquakes. Until either the US Gov't or the very top at the IAEA states there was a successful test, this is nothing but linkbait. Frankly, given the tensions right now between the North and South, and that it seems the North, with the Passing of Kim Jung Il, might be more willing to open up, I find this type of reporting and grandstanding for views really infuriating.

/rant

Re: 'Artificial' earthquake detected in North Korea may be nuclear test

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post #6

Why is it wrong that NK do Nuclear testing? I agree NK has some human rights issues, that should be addressed, but testing nuclear weapons is no different to Pakistan or India, and there are no sanctions against them.

I'm guessing the issue is that NK is an openly hostile country that is not only threatening its southern neighbor but also the region.

India and Pakistan may have a beef with each other, but they weren't a destabilizing force in the region, or maybe more accurately, if they were, it wasn't a huge concern of the superpowers at the time.

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