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In the future, all space marines will be Warhammer 40K space marines

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Re: In the future, all space marines will be Warhammer 40K space marines

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As a huge science fiction nerd and Games Workshop customer, this feels like rank betrayal. I expect this kind of legal bullying from big companies, but from a company that makes minifigs and other gaming accessories I expect better behavior.

GW has previous form, they issued a bunch of C&Ds recently to many websites.

And they're a pretty big company. They're a PLC trading on London Stock Exchange. (http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices-and-marke...)

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According to Wikipedia[1], the first use of the term 'space marine' in literature was the 1932 short story Captain Brink of the Space Marines by Bob Olsen. That's a full 43 years before Games Workshop was founded, and 55 years before Warhammer 40K was introduced. And the prior usage of the term and concept kept coming strong throughout the intervening half-century. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_marine

So why is this not an open and shut case ?

Re: In the future, all space marines will be Warhammer 40K space marines

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I knew this was going to happen some day. Games Workshop is essentially two separate companies, the raving legal department/copyright trolls (A couple of years ago they regularly put full page colour adverts in all the British wargaming magazines warning that they would enforce their IP with the full power afforded to them by the law, it was generally considered a bad joke by most.) and the (for a lack of a better term) hobbyists who make most of the miniatures and write most of the rules. And it seems like they take turns running the company. For ages, there'll be lots of player-friendly new things and shiny new figures and the terrible quota-driven managers at the shops will be replaced with the people who are there because they love their hobby. And then everything'll change and they'll start enforcing stupid dictats on IP, change the rules of the games to excessively favour those with bigger wallets, bump up the prices of everything and fire those people that sacrifice short term gains for cultivating a long term base of customers and fans.

I find it really sad, I grew up near their HQ in Nottingham. A number of my dad's friends work for them. And I'd love for this to be the push that means that all the other wargaming companies (who in the past couple of years have really progressed in professionalism and quality) will find even more traction. (Although they all still suffer from a lack of space to sell things, there is a GW in almost every town in the UK. They've all but squeezed out the independent hobby shops.) But a lot of people just won't care. And an equal number of people are too locked in, they've spent a lot of money on the GW armies. All their friends have GW armies. You can't just splurge two, three hundred pounds on warmahordes unless all your friends do the same.

All I can hope is that GW gets their arse handed to them and the hobbyists get put back in charge.

Re: In the future, all space marines will be Warhammer 40K space marines

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post #12

According to Wikipedia[1], the first use of the term 'space marine' in literature was the 1932 short story Captain Brink of the Space Marines by Bob Olsen. That's a full 43 years before Games Workshop was founded, and 55 years before Warhammer 40K was introduced. And the prior usage of the term and concept kept coming strong throughout the intervening half-century. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_marine

So why is this not an open and shut case ?

Because lawyers.

Re: In the future, all space marines will be Warhammer 40K space marines

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post #12

According to Wikipedia[1], the first use of the term 'space marine' in literature was the 1932 short story Captain Brink of the Space Marines by Bob Olsen. That's a full 43 years before Games Workshop was founded, and 55 years before Warhammer 40K was introduced. And the prior usage of the term and concept kept coming strong throughout the intervening half-century. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_marine

So why is this not an open and shut case ?

Because Games Workshop employs the kind of lawyers that consider petty things like the truth and other peoples IP to be inconveniences to be worked around.

Re: In the future, all space marines will be Warhammer 40K space marines

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As a huge science fiction nerd and Games Workshop customer, this feels like rank betrayal. I expect this kind of legal bullying from big companies, but from a company that makes minifigs and other gaming accessories I expect better behavior.

GW is a large company. And it is the behemoth in it's industry. They do not innovate, just rehash same properties. They are the incumbent, "monopoly", content holder who (attempts to) destroy little guys.

Re: In the future, all space marines will be Warhammer 40K space marines

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He missed the chance to title this post with 'In the grim darkness of the far future...'

... there is only litigation.

"Forget the power of technology and science, for so much has been forgotten, never to be relearned."

Re: In the future, all space marines will be Warhammer 40K space marines

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As a huge science fiction nerd and Games Workshop customer, this feels like rank betrayal. I expect this kind of legal bullying from big companies, but from a company that makes minifigs and other gaming accessories I expect better behavior.

Games Workshop is worse than Disney when it comes to protecting their IP. Just search google for games workshop lawsuit.

Re: In the future, all space marines will be Warhammer 40K space marines

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post #11
post #2

As a huge science fiction nerd and Games Workshop customer, this feels like rank betrayal. I expect this kind of legal bullying from big companies, but from a company that makes minifigs and other gaming accessories I expect better behavior.

GW has previous form, they issued a bunch of C&Ds recently to many websites. And they're a pretty big company. They're a PLC trading on London Stock Exchange. ( http://www.londonstockexchange.com/exchange/prices-and-marke... )

If they're public, they're subject to shareholder reaction.

Perhaps making large shareholders aware of the PR damage the company is about to take is a viable path.

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