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Modeled on man: Breathable skin for buildings

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Re: Modeled on man: Breathable skin for buildings

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"Isn’t air conditioning in temperate climates an unnecessary waste of energy? ... wouldn’t it be more efficient to just open a window instead? " Good luck with that in Florida. Open a window, it gets hotter.

The woman who is working on it is based out of USC, and in Los Angeles I think this would be extremely feasible - many buildings don't even have heat or air conditioning and generally only get hot based on the position of the sun, since there's no humidity to trap heat.

Definitely not a great idea in Florida for sure, but for Southern California I think its pretty compelling

Re: Modeled on man: Breathable skin for buildings

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I would love to see how this would work here in Phoenix in the summer. While it is aimed at temperate climates, if it is able to reduce the AC consumption here it might be worth it. First Solar in Tempe designed some shade screens into their building that open/close with the sun's movement. A skin like this might be a more practical solution.

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Re: Modeled on man: Breathable skin for buildings

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"Isn’t air conditioning in temperate climates an unnecessary waste of energy? ... wouldn’t it be more efficient to just open a window instead? " Good luck with that in Florida. Open a window, it gets hotter.

This is still a good point- Wisconsin or Minnesota are actually in the temperate climate zone. These states might be -10 F in January and 102 F degrees in July. Both heating and cooling are necessary, regardless of their location in the temperate climate zone.

Re: Modeled on man: Breathable skin for buildings

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"Isn’t air conditioning in temperate climates an unnecessary waste of energy? ... wouldn’t it be more efficient to just open a window instead? " Good luck with that in Florida. Open a window, it gets hotter.

Not in a well designed house, actually. I lived in Cuba, and in all the older houses it was quite cool during the day, if the windows were open. I have no idea how they did it. This was mostly in coastal areas, so there was much wind. But it even worked in inland areas. The windows did not let in much light. There was usually no air conditioning, and inside was generally much cooler than outside. In any modern buildi…

Sorry, but this sounds a little like nostalgia colored recollection. There's nothing magical about old architecture. Yes, some designs will stay cooler than others, but you're not getting anywhere close to an air-conditioned home in a Florida summer using old designs (barring absurdities like stone castles).

Florida is similar to Cuba. If you own a home located close to the beach, you're in good shape. You can leave your windows open all winter, and most of the fall and spring. As you move inland you lose the ocean breeze cooling effect very, very quickly though.

I grew up in a turn of the century bungalow home about 3 miles from the beach on the east coast of Florida. The home was built, and lived in, by a contractor who developed much of my home town in the 1900-1915 time period. The homes had many windows with long-ish eaves (for shade) so you could take advantage of the breeze. Back in the early 1900s, that was the only option you had.

Growing up, we only had a window unit air conditioner, and my parents couldn't afford to run it much, so I can personally attest to the difficulties associated with living in South Florida with no air-conditioning. It was never "quite cool" (by air-conditioned standards) in our house during the summer, even though the home was designed specifically for the environment. For most of the day it stayed cooler than it was outside, but on a cloud-free summer day, there was no relief, inside or out.

I'm not saying we shouldn't use innovative techniques to reduce energy usage, but I am contesting the idea that you can build an above-ground zero-energy home in Florida.

Re: Modeled on man: Breathable skin for buildings

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"Isn’t air conditioning in temperate climates an unnecessary waste of energy? ... wouldn’t it be more efficient to just open a window instead? " Good luck with that in Florida. Open a window, it gets hotter.

Not in a well designed house, actually. I lived in Cuba, and in all the older houses it was quite cool during the day, if the windows were open. I have no idea how they did it. This was mostly in coastal areas, so there was much wind. But it even worked in inland areas. The windows did not let in much light. There was usually no air conditioning, and inside was generally much cooler than outside. In any modern buildi…

Were the walls solid concrete?

Re: Modeled on man: Breathable skin for buildings

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"Isn’t air conditioning in temperate climates an unnecessary waste of energy? ... wouldn’t it be more efficient to just open a window instead? " Good luck with that in Florida. Open a window, it gets hotter.

This is still a good point- Wisconsin or Minnesota are actually in the temperate climate zone. These states might be -10 F in January and 102 F degrees in July. Both heating and cooling are necessary, regardless of their location in the temperate climate zone.

It might be idealistic to expect that technology like this could eliminate the requirement for HVAC entirely, but a more achievable goal might be to increase the number of HVAC-free days by 10-20%. That would NET a significant energy savings.
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