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Re: A Wrist-Worn Answer to Sexual Attack?

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Post by theorique » Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 10:08 PM UTC

matt_ wrote: post #7

A gun? Pepper Spray? You have no idea how the rapist will react to that. And someone shouldn't have to have the burden of ending another human's life just to not be attacked.

A gun? Pepper Spray? You have no idea how the rapist will react to that.

By screaming in pain and flopping on the ground, one would hope.

And someone shouldn't have to have the burden of ending another human's life just to not be attacked.

Well sure, but given the choice of injuring / killing an attacker, or being attacked, what do you think most people would pick? What would you pick?

Re: A Wrist-Worn Answer to Sexual Attack?

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Post by matt_ » Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 10:14 PM UTC

theorique wrote: post #11

matt_ wrote: post #7

A gun? Pepper Spray? You have no idea how the rapist will react to that. And someone shouldn't have to have the burden of ending another human's life just to not be attacked.

A gun? Pepper Spray? You have no idea how the rapist will react to that. By screaming in pain and flopping on the ground, one would hope. And someone shouldn't have to have the burden of ending another human's life just to not be attacked. Well sure, but given the choice of injuring / killing an attacker, or being attacked, what do you think most people would pick? What would you pick?

What if the attacker has a gun/pepper spray?...

Not to mention that many women state their bodies just shut down like they weren't even there, even if they had a way out/way to defend themselves.

Re: A Wrist-Worn Answer to Sexual Attack?

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 10:14 PM UTC

readme wrote: post #2

>“I don’t think this will make any difference in controlling rape cases,” says Sehba Farooqui, a woman’s rights activist in Delhi. I agree. I don't think someone desperate enough to rape will care if their victim has a wristwatch that can sms instantly. A good amount of potential rapists aren't even going to know about them, even if the government advertises it. A large portion of those who know either won't care, or…

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Re: A Wrist-Worn Answer to Sexual Attack?

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Post by charliepark » Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 10:15 PM UTC

Wouldn't it be more effective if coupled with some distinctive and excruciatingly-loud alarm, as a means of drawing attention to the scene / getting the attacker to flee before doing anything?

Re: A Wrist-Worn Answer to Sexual Attack?

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 10:16 PM UTC

theorique wrote: post #11

matt_ wrote: post #7

A gun? Pepper Spray? You have no idea how the rapist will react to that. And someone shouldn't have to have the burden of ending another human's life just to not be attacked.

A gun? Pepper Spray? You have no idea how the rapist will react to that. By screaming in pain and flopping on the ground, one would hope. And someone shouldn't have to have the burden of ending another human's life just to not be attacked. Well sure, but given the choice of injuring / killing an attacker, or being attacked, what do you think most people would pick? What would you pick?

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Re: A Wrist-Worn Answer to Sexual Attack?

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Post by cobrausn » Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 10:18 PM UTC

matt_ wrote: post #12

theorique wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A gun? Pepper Spray? You have no idea how the rapist will react to that. By screaming in pain and flopping on the ground, one would hope. And someone shouldn't have to have the burden of ending another human's life just to not be attacked. Well sure, but given the choice of injuring / killing an attacker, or being attacked, what do you think most people would pick? What would you pick?

What if the attacker has a gun/pepper spray?... Not to mention that many women state their bodies just shut down like they weren't even there, even if they had a way out/way to defend themselves.

And many women recall every horrific detail. Seriously, you sound like you are advocating that any potential rape victim should just shut up and take it. My guess is it would be because your (already stupidly safe) life would be a bit safer without (legal) weapons around.

My wife, for what it's worth, will put a bullet in a rapist and not think twice. I told her to put more than one. If that seems 'crass' or 'tacky' or 'unenlightened' or whatever else to anyone here, I really don't care. It's not your body and life we're talking about here, and it's not like she has the ability to fend off a motivated 200+ pound attacker without one.

Re: A Wrist-Worn Answer to Sexual Attack?

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Post by cobrausn » Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 10:19 PM UTC

nsxwolf wrote: post #5

exabrial wrote: post #3

The smoking barrel of a 9mm is far more effective, if legal to get a CCL in your state.

Come now! Surely the rapist would just snatch it from her trembling hand!

I hope this was an ironic attempt to demonstrate the sexism inherent to that kind of argument against self-defense.

Re: A Wrist-Worn Answer to Sexual Attack?

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Post by cobrausn » Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 10:20 PM UTC

incision wrote: post #8

exabrial wrote: post #3

The smoking barrel of a 9mm is far more effective, if legal to get a CCL in your state.

Guns: They Make You Invincible

Guns: Provably better than snark at preventing and stopping rape.

Re: A Wrist-Worn Answer to Sexual Attack?

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Post by king_jester » Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 10:20 PM UTC

readme wrote: post #2

>“I don’t think this will make any difference in controlling rape cases,” says Sehba Farooqui, a woman’s rights activist in Delhi. I agree. I don't think someone desperate enough to rape will care if their victim has a wristwatch that can sms instantly. A good amount of potential rapists aren't even going to know about them, even if the government advertises it. A large portion of those who know either won't care, or…

> What would actually help stop a rape is some pepper spray. I don't know the legality of that in India, but I have to say a lot of places in the US make it way too difficult to acquire this very basic and effective self defense item.

Self defense gear isn't a great systemic solution to sexual assault and rape, esp. when it occurs with great frequency and police do not take such cases seriously. Even in the US most sexual assault cases will never see an arrest or prosecution and most people are assaulted by someone they know, not by a random stranger on the street.

Re: A Wrist-Worn Answer to Sexual Attack?

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Post by king_jester » Fri, Jan 25, 2013, 10:21 PM UTC

exabrial wrote: post #3

The smoking barrel of a 9mm is far more effective, if legal to get a CCL in your state.

Most people are sexually assaulted by someone they know and have a level of trust with already, guns do not solve this problem. Also, a lot of people aren't comfortable with owning or using a gun anyway and there is a class issue with having to purchase equipment.