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My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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When people while about getting 'removed from friends list' like Google, YouTube, Facebook, Yahoo, MSN networks... If it is free, they can do this anytime they like. Your proper answer is to set up your own server and do it yourself. I guess taking it public and getting responses from individuals in that company is your response. Still doesn't mean you shouldn't set up shop in your own right.

Apt nick. Even if it is free you can at least expect to be served no worse than the next guy.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

#12

You probably got hit with a number of DMCA takedown requests. You've filed a counter-notice, which will put the content back up. But you have to wait until that occurs, which could be a while. You may not have done anything wrong, for this to occur. All it takes is someone willing to _say_ that you infringed on their copyright. I think you can sue the issuers of the takedowns, if they are fraudulent.

You can, but good luck. Filing a counternotice gets you the name (and I think the IP address) of the person that filed the notice, but considering that #1 is just a form input box and #2 is useless for identificiation purposes...

This was likely the act of someone with an axe to grind, not any violation of YouTube policies.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

#13

When people while about getting 'removed from friends list' like Google, YouTube, Facebook, Yahoo, MSN networks... If it is free, they can do this anytime they like. Your proper answer is to set up your own server and do it yourself. I guess taking it public and getting responses from individuals in that company is your response. Still doesn't mean you shouldn't set up shop in your own right.

To be fair to the parent, he does have a point. You are in no way entitled to the free use of such a service. It's great that it's provided and all, but in the end, there may be some, or no, reason, that they want to pull the plug, on you, on a subset, or the entire service.

"Entitled" blogs, rants and the like (and to be clear, this entry didn't strike me as particularly entitled, but disappointed) are more the act of petulant children.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

#14

When people while about getting 'removed from friends list' like Google, YouTube, Facebook, Yahoo, MSN networks... If it is free, they can do this anytime they like. Your proper answer is to set up your own server and do it yourself. I guess taking it public and getting responses from individuals in that company is your response. Still doesn't mean you shouldn't set up shop in your own right.

Strictly true, but it's an issue of network effect. Let's say you get kicked off of HN. You're free to go start your discussion resource for hackers, right?

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

#16
I'll share my personal response. I suspect I'm not alone in this.

Google is incurring and running up against some real trust issues.

I haven't always agreed with their decisions, but even when I became discouraged, I'd still glean information and news that showed or hinted at concerned, ethical people behind the closed doors.

But... the continuing lack of a public, human interface to their endeavors, and the increasing... unreliability of their products. (Well, their products to us end users of their ostensible services, as opposed to us as products delivered via their marketing and advertising mechanisms.)

I increasingly don't trust them.

And this is going to be a serious problem for Google, in the long run. Once you lose reliability and accountability, people start looking elsewhere.

Ok, this is a bit of a long reach, but look at Apple. Jobs was, ultimately if somewhat capriciously, a primary source of Apple's accountability. And now he's gone.

Even if people couldn't explain it and articulate it fully, they felt concern that his passing potentially represented a significant shift.

The more and longer Google continues to refuse to acknowledge -- and address -- the gaming of the IP/content/distribution systems, the more distrust builds.

Even still, this "silence" is not consistent and company-wide. For example, Google Fiber -- at least in its incarnation; I'm less certain about it's continuing and evolving existence -- is a fairly strong statement (even if and as also somewhat self-serving; this is a business, after all) about the current state and needed direction of development and growth of connectivity.

But I don't know that this "under the radar" approach suffices. Back to the original point of this thread: I don't trust that anything on YouTube is going to be there, tomorrow.

The Web is failing as archive. More and more, the public is learning that it is indeed transient.

If you want people to "live" there and to trust to your online services, this may be a bad thing.

(Yes, I'm one isolated opinion, and I may be blowing smoke. But I'm disgusted at the increasing constriction back towards an entrenched status quo -- or the attempts at same.)

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

#17
post #10

Why aren't you posting your content on the other services you mentioned anyway?

I am not the OP, but IME YouTube is by far the easiest to make ad money from.

Google giveth and Google taketh away (often without you really knowing why).

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

#18
Does anyone else think that lack of accountability from content hosting providers makes this game so unfair to people who use these services. For example, if YouTube were legally accountable to provide a service would this situation have occurred? I understand YouTube is free (itself a topic of contention) but just because you are free, it doesn't give you a guilt free pass to do anything you want.

Re: My Web Series Was Suspended by YouTube Without Explanation

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post #9

When people while about getting 'removed from friends list' like Google, YouTube, Facebook, Yahoo, MSN networks... If it is free, they can do this anytime they like. Your proper answer is to set up your own server and do it yourself. I guess taking it public and getting responses from individuals in that company is your response. Still doesn't mean you shouldn't set up shop in your own right.

Given the nature of the internet, even that's not a fix. If you set up a server, your ISP could shut you off in response to DMCA demands. I suppose you could find an off-shore server, but nothing's foolproof.

YouTube does automated dispute handling. They aren't even DMCA complaints. So they have no real burden.

Hosting with The Pirate Bay would seem like an option. They seem to have 'stop shutdowns' stopped pretty well.

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