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The good news is reality exists. The bad is it’s even stranger than people thought

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Re: The good news is reality exists. The bad is it’s even stranger than people thought

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Definite proof that we live in a simulation and those who attend to it save up some computational resources by computing only what can be seen, and also they have a bug where they used a signed int instead of an unsigned int ;P

Re: The good news is reality exists. The bad is it’s even stranger than people thought

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Really this result is consistent with the Everett - Wheeler 1958 thesis that the wave function never collapses. This I have held to be the case personally for a long while, and in light of that, this new result is not surprising.

When you get right down to it, it is basically saying the wave functions of the entangled photons do not decay since they are never directly observed. Extrapolating from this one can say that in fact Wheeler and Everett were right, and the wave function never decays at all. Which of course leads to the "branching universe" idea, which to me will one day be seen as no more surprising than the "many galaxies" idea. Remember, the idea of other galaxies before the discoveries of Hubble and so on used to be only speculation, not universally held. Now we know there are at least 10^10 galaxies. Similarly the fact that the wave function never collapses, as Everett and Wheeler proposed will be held to be just as prosaic as the fact that there are other galaxies.

Re: The good news is reality exists. The bad is it’s even stranger than people thought

#13
This made my head hurt.

So by not looking, scientists determined that while they were not looking in some spots there was a negative number of photons. This did not mean there exist anti-photons, just that weird things happen while we're not looking.

(scratches head)

A non-observation found unexpected results, which means that the known laws of physics don't need to change.

I shoulda went into particle physics. It sounds like lots more fun than technology consulting.

Re: The good news is reality exists. The bad is it’s even stranger than people thought

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Read this and thought it made sense, but I'm not physicist. I'd really like to know what actual physicists make of this.

Back in the day, I submitted this paper to the American Journal of Physics. It was rejected, not because it was incorrect, but because it didn't say anything new. If you like I can post the review.

I would like to see that review.

Re: The good news is reality exists. The bad is it’s even stranger than people thought

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Back in the day, I submitted this paper to the American Journal of Physics. It was rejected, not because it was incorrect, but because it didn't say anything new. If you like I can post the review.

I would like to see that review.

Seconded

Re: The good news is reality exists. The bad is it’s even stranger than people thought

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The paper is accessible at http://arxiv.org/abs/0811.1625

But if I read the paper, won't I change its outcome?

yea this paper makes me think that quantum physics is bogus... even I could have made this bogus claim. IF I am not looking, shit happens, so how do I prove that I am not looking, by just peeping into it... what shit... what a scam.. now I feel that neone can be a quantum physicist !!

Re: The good news is reality exists. The bad is it’s even stranger than people thought

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But if I read the paper, won't I change its outcome?

yea this paper makes me think that quantum physics is bogus... even I could have made this bogus claim. IF I am not looking, shit happens, so how do I prove that I am not looking, by just peeping into it... what shit... what a scam.. now I feel that neone can be a quantum physicist !!

The mystery is how it can be so confusing, and how measurement and entanglement can be so mysterious, while at the same time, it can be so accurate a predictive theory. Any time you use a laser, as in an optical drive you rely upon a quantum effect that was derived before it was discovered. The energy levels of electrons in chemicals, of the affinities between chemicals, the reaction cross-sections of the fusion processes that power our stars, of the voltages in the millions of transistors in your microprocessor, you're relying on precise effects that are calculated with the quantum theory. It's not a scam, it's a mystery.

Re: The good news is reality exists. The bad is it’s even stranger than people thought

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I would like to see that review.

Seconded

Here it is. (Gotta love modern search tools.)

Edit: couldn't figure out how to paste in pre-formatted text, so here's a link instead:

http://www.flownet.com/ron/ajp_review.txt

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