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A 386 PC for Your RP2350

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Re: A 386 PC for Your RP2350

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Looks like it can even run Windows 96. Incredibly cool. I'll have to try if it runs my old Slackware kernal 1.2.13 some time. I used it with a 4MiB, 25Mhz 386 DX back in the time, so it should.

Did not realize that Win95 can technically run on a 20Mhz 386DX.

Good question. I ran Slackware Linux and DOS 5.0 on mine. I think Win95 was my Pentium 100 MHz already so it sounds a bit sus, but the FAQ section of OP had items about Win95, that is where I got the idea from.

Re: A 386 PC for Your RP2350

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post #6

Looks like it can even run Windows 96. Incredibly cool. I'll have to try if it runs my old Slackware kernal 1.2.13 some time. I used it with a 4MiB, 25Mhz 386 DX back in the time, so it should.

Did not realize that Win95 can technically run on a 20Mhz 386DX.

It "technically" can - i used Win95 on an AMD 386DX with 4MB of RAM back in the 90s for a little. Most of the time was spent waiting for the computer to do something while the HDD was constantly working.

The Pentium MMX with 32MB i replaced it with was MUCH faster, practically everything was instant.

Re: A 386 PC for Your RP2350

#15
post #6

Looks like it can even run Windows 96. Incredibly cool. I'll have to try if it runs my old Slackware kernal 1.2.13 some time. I used it with a 4MiB, 25Mhz 386 DX back in the time, so it should.

Did not realize that Win95 can technically run on a 20Mhz 386DX.

> Win95 can technically run on a 20Mhz 386DX

s/technically/allegedly/

supposedly with a minimum of 4M RAM even! [1] I have a machine with twice that clock and twice that RAM that a friends parents wanted to toss out[2]. I spent the better part of a day getting Windows 3.11 and Office 4.3 to run. Playing around with it for a bit, I highly doubt that Windows 95 on minimum requirements would be anything but endlessly frustrating. I was not masochistic enough to try.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_95#System_requirements

[2] https://goliath32.com/hw/machines.html#pc386

Re: A 386 PC for Your RP2350

#17

I love it! The RP2350 is probably the most underrated microcontroller available today.

Overrated surely? It's a pretty bog standard MCU, no wireless support, mediocre deep sleep. I don't know why you'd pick it over an ESP32 or nRF5x.

The only standout feature is PIO which is definitely interesting but very niche. It's also patented so say goodbye to any portability or FOSS vibes. (If you want a FOSS version btw, check out https://baochip.com/)

If it didn't have the Raspberry name behind it nobody would even have heard of it.

Re: A 386 PC for Your RP2350

#18

Does it emulate RS232 ports and printer ports as well ? I did'nt find anything. Then it would be possible to reuse old embedded equipment.

No, it doesn't.

Also this doesn't emulate ISA bus, where one could plug one of those "multi-io" cards to get rs232/printer ports.

Which is a shame. There are plenty of GPIO pins to fit full ISA on RP2350 (at least on "B" variant), and those GPIO are supposedly 5V-tolerant (with sufficiently recent silicon revision). So hardware-wise, it's just a matter of wiring up an ISA slot directly to the RP chip.

Re: A 386 PC for Your RP2350

#19

I love it! The RP2350 is probably the most underrated microcontroller available today.

Overrated surely? It's a pretty bog standard MCU, no wireless support, mediocre deep sleep. I don't know why you'd pick it over an ESP32 or nRF5x. The only standout feature is PIO which is definitely interesting but very niche. It's also patented so say goodbye to any portability or FOSS vibes. (If you want a FOSS version btw, check out https://baochip.com/ ) If it didn't have the Raspberry name behind it nobody woul…

The PIO are pretty great and not niche. Almost any embedded application needs mixed signal interfaces. You could say embedded applications are niche, but not that embedded applications needing mixed signal interfaces.

A serious warning: read the RP2350 errata carefully. You may be better off buying old 2040 inventory.

Re: A 386 PC for Your RP2350

#20

Does it emulate RS232 ports and printer ports as well ? I did'nt find anything. Then it would be possible to reuse old embedded equipment.

> Then it would be possible to reuse old embedded equipment.

Unlikely, virtualization/emulation has been a thing well before this project and you can just buy USB to RS232 adapters. There are GPIO solutions for industrial PCs other than the parallel port. Or you can simply buy new industrial PCs which have those ports.

If you find an industrial appliance controlled by genuine old PC hardware that hasn't been replaced, the RS232 ports are the least of your concerns.

In my experience, such machines usually have something insanely proprietary plugging into a custom ISA card, and whatever is connected to it usually doesn't take too kindly if the bus timings are off. And neither does the accompanying bare metal software that relies heavily on timing loops and hardware peculiarities.

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