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The world may have less time than it thinks on climate change

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Re: The world may have less time than it thinks on climate change

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Post by underlipton »

jmclnx wrote: post #4

Magazines like The Economist helped bring us here by describing Oil Companies still has a bright future and a great investment in the 80s and 90s. Instead if they had authored high profile articles about how fossil fuels are driving this world to disaster, maybe we would be in a better place. Doing that would have made their advertisers mad, so they kept writing about clean coal and oil for better $. It was the exact…

This goes for almost every institution you can think of, save higher education and the field of climate science - and, even then, you can make an argument for lax funding and marketing on their part, in terms of overwhelming politicians and industry with the truth, no doubt at the behest of wealthy donors looking at their portfolios. But journalism, especially: essentially asleep at the wheel, when the gravity of the situation is considered. Too many people obsessed with their careers and with blinders on.

Re: The world may have less time than it thinks on climate change

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Post by ceejayoz »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #8
jmclnx wrote: post #4

Magazines like The Economist helped bring us here by describing Oil Companies still has a bright future and a great investment in the 80s and 90s. Instead if they had authored high profile articles about how fossil fuels are driving this world to disaster, maybe we would be in a better place. Doing that would have made their advertisers mad, so they kept writing about clean coal and oil for better $. It was the exact…

You should look into the economist a bit more. For one, they have no advertisers to keep happy. Edit: I stand corrected. A better way to phrase it is that their business model does not rely on advertising, and they traditionally did not run ads until recently.

The top of economist.com has a 250px high `adComponent_adcontainer__eooQr` div.

My Pihole blocks its content, but I have a guess as to what it is.

They seem to think they have advertisers. https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/How-do-I-advertise...

Re: The world may have less time than it thinks on climate change

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Post by herbst »

sho_hn wrote: post #9

It's strange that anyone's still thinking there's "still time until we have to act". Is this really the average view out there?

I don't know anyone or ever see any media reflecting such a weird standpoint. It's more "better act now than even later"

Re: The world may have less time than it thinks on climate change

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Post by monneyboi »

Every prediction we make seems to be reached sooner than expected. There is so many effects that we don't understand yet.

Keeping with the "this is surprising" narrative, or like this title, implying that we have any time at all, is not helping.

I would expect a less naive title from a platform like the economist.

Re: The world may have less time than it thinks on climate change

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Post by Terr_ »

sho_hn wrote: post #9

It's strange that anyone's still thinking there's "still time until we have to act". Is this really the average view out there?

Hopefully not average, but I guarantee there are forces out there actively pushing it. Two versions, eventually:

1. Don't do anything that might interfere with our profits, time is available/needed to consider what to do.

2. Don't do anything that might interfere with out profits, it's too late anyway.

Re: The world may have less time than it thinks on climate change

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Post by [deleted] »

ceejayoz wrote: post #12
dghlsakjg wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should look into the economist a bit more. For one, they have no advertisers to keep happy. Edit: I stand corrected. A better way to phrase it is that their business model does not rely on advertising, and they traditionally did not run ads until recently.

The top of economist.com has a 250px high `adComponent_adcontainer__eooQr` div. My Pihole blocks its content, but I have a guess as to what it is. They seem to think they have advertisers. https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/How-do-I-advertise...

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Re: The world may have less time than it thinks on climate change

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Post by stouset »

ceejayoz wrote: post #12
dghlsakjg wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should look into the economist a bit more. For one, they have no advertisers to keep happy. Edit: I stand corrected. A better way to phrase it is that their business model does not rely on advertising, and they traditionally did not run ads until recently.

The top of economist.com has a 250px high `adComponent_adcontainer__eooQr` div. My Pihole blocks its content, but I have a guess as to what it is. They seem to think they have advertisers. https://myaccount.economist.com/s/article/How-do-I-advertise...

The ads they accept are basically just classifieds for high-level positions in NGOs.

I turned off anblocking and see zero ads on the site.

Re: The world may have less time than it thinks on climate change

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Post by antonvs »

monneyboi wrote: post #14

Every prediction we make seems to be reached sooner than expected. There is so many effects that we don't understand yet. Keeping with the "this is surprising" narrative, or like this title, implying that we have any time at all, is not helping. I would expect a less naive title from a platform like the economist.

The Economist is torn, because on the one hand they try to appear clever, but on the other hand they generally support unrestrained capitalism. It’s not possible to do both at the same time.
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