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Re: Hy4 preview

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Post by tokai »

cyanydeez wrote: post #3
minimaxir wrote: post #2

Hy4 apparently has ludicrous traction on OpenRouter already ( https://openrouter.ai/tencent/hy4-preview ), with trillions of tokens processed in a couple days: more than GLM 5.3 in a week. That said, it's relatively cheap with a 5% cache cost when everyone is still doing 10%/20% cache costs, so Hy4 may be more compelling.

i'd be curious if openrouter is just being gamed by these publishers by paying for the exposure. wouldn't trust they dont do Capitalism like the rest of the AI field.

>dont do Capitalism like the rest of the AI field

Like lobbying the US president to harm their competitors?

Re: Hy4 preview

#12

Post by vcryan »

Topfi wrote: post #6
vcryan wrote: post #4

I used Hy3 quite a bit for the type of tasks it was suited for. Excited about this. My one concern over Hy3 was speed. In theory, it could be served much faster as a smaller model but it was relatively slow everywhere I could get it (including from Tencent directly) but also several other inference providers.

In my evals, I saw an unprecedented jump between preview and final release on Hy3, from unusable to competitive. Did you see similar in preview vs release version?

Oh yes! I forgot about that. Yes, you can see this in benchmarks about hy3 preview and hy3 release still today because they measured them separately - it was significant.

Re: Hy4 preview

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Post by jorl17 »

I experimented with Hy3 for a project and was surprised with how good it was. I don't know if it's good for coding, but as a general purpose agentic model, it was only beaten by deepseek4-flash in our tests. It was so close to deepseek behaviour I kept thinking it must have been forked from it.

Re: Hy4 preview

#16

Post by realo »

tokai wrote: post #11
cyanydeez wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i'd be curious if openrouter is just being gamed by these publishers by paying for the exposure. wouldn't trust they dont do Capitalism like the rest of the AI field.

>dont do Capitalism like the rest of the AI field Like lobbying the US president to harm their competitors?

I would suggest "lobbying" is not the correct word to describe all the corruption going on in the current USA administration cesspool.

Re: Hy4 preview

#17

Post by Zigurd »

Is anyone here working on a problem for which current generation LLMs are inadequate, but that could possibly be solved by the next release of a first tier LLM?

Or is it like bicycles? Unless your problem is named Tadej, you don't need a $13,000 bike.

Re: Hy4 preview

#18

Post by poincareball »

Zigurd wrote: post #17

Is anyone here working on a problem for which current generation LLMs are inadequate, but that could possibly be solved by the next release of a first tier LLM? Or is it like bicycles? Unless your problem is named Tadej, you don't need a $13,000 bike.

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Re: Hy4 preview

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Post by tokai »

Zigurd wrote: post #17

Is anyone here working on a problem for which current generation LLMs are inadequate, but that could possibly be solved by the next release of a first tier LLM? Or is it like bicycles? Unless your problem is named Tadej, you don't need a $13,000 bike.

A spanish rock solved that problem for free.
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