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Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Re: Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Post by dan_ggggg »

ck2 wrote: post #8
WhyIsItAlwaysHN wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it will ever be able to make perfect extensions, because there is no perfect extension. Part of creative work is human imperfections. Part of me being invested in a series is because I know it will end at some point. If there's infinite star trek episodes, I don't care to watch it. I'd rather spin a fidget spinner instead.

you are reacting as if the content is going to be robotic except "AI" doesn't have any original thoughts of its own, everything is going to be originally from a human source it might be a concept from some rare book they fed it and destroyed after, it might be a concept from thousands of "fan fic" they hoovered up all over the internet by scraping forums illegally you say you won't watch it except human behavior alre…

I'm sorry but it sounds like you don't have a very good understanding of what art is or what role it plays in human existence. What kind of grades did you get in English class as a kid?

Re: Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Post by hwhshsh »

ck2 wrote: post #8
WhyIsItAlwaysHN wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it will ever be able to make perfect extensions, because there is no perfect extension. Part of creative work is human imperfections. Part of me being invested in a series is because I know it will end at some point. If there's infinite star trek episodes, I don't care to watch it. I'd rather spin a fidget spinner instead.

you are reacting as if the content is going to be robotic except "AI" doesn't have any original thoughts of its own, everything is going to be originally from a human source it might be a concept from some rare book they fed it and destroyed after, it might be a concept from thousands of "fan fic" they hoovered up all over the internet by scraping forums illegally you say you won't watch it except human behavior alre…

no it will be uncanny slop just like all the AI slop I've already had forced on me

> there are millions of other people who will

yeah millions of people like all kinds of dreck. sure, you probably liked The Big Bang Theory but some of us have taste

Re: Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Post by hackable_sand »

WarmWash wrote: post #4
ck2 wrote: post #2

What I am curious to learn is how many episodes of a TV series made by real actors it will take for an "AI" to eventually make perfect extensions ie. feed it every episode of the original Star Trek series, at some point "AI" is going to be advanced enough to write a new episode and simulate all the characters perfectly anime and animation in theory will be even easier to do perfectly? the question is can it do it per…

Why wouldn't the users just generate it themselves?

Why would they?

Re: Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Post by dan_ggggg »

hwhshsh wrote: post #12
ck2 wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you are reacting as if the content is going to be robotic except "AI" doesn't have any original thoughts of its own, everything is going to be originally from a human source it might be a concept from some rare book they fed it and destroyed after, it might be a concept from thousands of "fan fic" they hoovered up all over the internet by scraping forums illegally you say you won't watch it except human behavior alre…

no it will be uncanny slop just like all the AI slop I've already had forced on me > there are millions of other people who will yeah millions of people like all kinds of dreck. sure, you probably liked The Big Bang Theory but some of us have taste

I'm not a fan, but it's a massive insult to compare a show written by a team of writers like The Big Bang Theory to AI generated TV slop for illiterate retards.

Re: Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Post by ygxhbcxdg »

homarp wrote: post #9
WarmWash wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why wouldn't the users just generate it themselves?

on their own computer using open weight chinese models? More seriously 1) >users will generate their own some people write fanfic, most just watch/read instead. 2) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rebel_Without_a_Crew explains how film maker will film, with whatever they have. AI will enable some people to make what is not financially feasible right now for a single person to do. 'Unique' movie/stories creation will con…

Sora was QUICKLY shut down due to the astronomical cost. On what basis do you claim that using language models to generate feature films would be cheap?

Re: Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Post by ygxhbcxdg »

WarmWash wrote: post #4
ck2 wrote: post #2

What I am curious to learn is how many episodes of a TV series made by real actors it will take for an "AI" to eventually make perfect extensions ie. feed it every episode of the original Star Trek series, at some point "AI" is going to be advanced enough to write a new episode and simulate all the characters perfectly anime and animation in theory will be even easier to do perfectly? the question is can it do it per…

Why wouldn't the users just generate it themselves?

because it's too expensive. Go try out Sora to see for yourself. oh right you can't

Re: Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Post by lxe »

If you haven't been following the current explosion of video gen models, including all the content you see on social media, you should pay attention.

I have no doubt in my mind that right now, in August of 2026, given a couple of weeks, an amateur with a high-end last-gen GPU or somebody with maybe a thousand bucks worth of AI credits, given a good amount of exploration/tinkering to fill the gaps that GenAI cannot currently do, (which is storyboarding, screenwriting, characters, and all the actual creative stuff), can crank out a high quality 1h+ feature film with only minor uncanny artifacts.

The reason why this isn't happening en masse right now is that most creatives are probably not focused on generating feature films, but rather content that's more digestible by social media users.

I would expect to start seeing a LOT of development in the upcoming months as some form of commodification where generated content can be both high quality and tailored to the user.

Re: Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Post by unixhero »

lxe wrote: post #17

If you haven't been following the current explosion of video gen models, including all the content you see on social media, you should pay attention. I have no doubt in my mind that right now, in August of 2026, given a couple of weeks, an amateur with a high-end last-gen GPU or somebody with maybe a thousand bucks worth of AI credits, given a good amount of exploration/tinkering to fill the gaps that GenAI cannot cu…

All I want is Seinfeld Forever

Re: Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Post by bri3d »

lxe wrote: post #17

If you haven't been following the current explosion of video gen models, including all the content you see on social media, you should pay attention. I have no doubt in my mind that right now, in August of 2026, given a couple of weeks, an amateur with a high-end last-gen GPU or somebody with maybe a thousand bucks worth of AI credits, given a good amount of exploration/tinkering to fill the gaps that GenAI cannot cu…

There’s a technology fundamental driving the short form aspect too, current video models are all trained on <500 frame sequences and struggle to generate long shots. There are a lot of attempts in the literature to improve cross-generation coherence but there needs to be an architectural breakthrough or significant scaling improvement before longer continuous shots are practical. So you’d be making a really ADD feature film at the moment.

Re: Digging the grave of my skills: Hollywood creatives training AI to do their jobs

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Post by Planktonne »

lxe wrote: post #17

If you haven't been following the current explosion of video gen models, including all the content you see on social media, you should pay attention. I have no doubt in my mind that right now, in August of 2026, given a couple of weeks, an amateur with a high-end last-gen GPU or somebody with maybe a thousand bucks worth of AI credits, given a good amount of exploration/tinkering to fill the gaps that GenAI cannot cu…

> I have no doubt in my mind that right now [...] an amateur with a high-end last-gen GPU or somebody with maybe a thousand bucks worth of AI credits [...] can crank out a high quality 1h+ feature film with only minor uncanny artifacts.

Then why are there no examples of this? There aren't even examples of steps towards it--the half hour film that's nearly production quality, etc.

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