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New Bedford police officer accused of using Flock cameras to track ex-partner

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Re: New Bedford police officer accused of using Flock cameras to track ex-partner

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Post by nickthegreek »

duxup wrote: post #3

I don't understand why a regular patrol officer would / should even have access to something like this without some level of extra authorization. They're not detectives running an open investigation ... In this case this officer was searching numerous networks over and over again, that alone should trigger some metrics that raise the question "uh ... why?"

How else could they have arrested that wisconsin guy for driving to michigan to purchase cannabis? You know, apparently a totally valid use for such technology..

Re: New Bedford police officer accused of using Flock cameras to track ex-partner

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Post by vips7L »

Tostino wrote: post #7

Wonder how quick this will get removed off the front page, like the last one about a woman pulled over at gunpoint multiple times because the ALPR kept making a mistake. Like I said in the last thread... I went and spoke at my county commission meeting today against these cameras: https://www.youtube.com/live/1OmEmpL-7qY?t=720 I went back and got transcripts for the rest of the meetings for the day, and after saying…

> Wonder how quick this will get removed off the front page

YC’s an investor after all

Re: New Bedford police officer accused of using Flock cameras to track ex-partner

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Post by Walf »

King-Aaron wrote: post #2

It was only about an hour ago I saw yet another mindless commentator on one of these threads saying "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about".

The funniest response I've read to this type of reasoning went something like this: a family gathering; topic of privacy came up; boomer-type trotted out the "nothing to hide" line; younger relative asked them if they enjoy a particular type of sexual intercourse with their spouse; red faces and looks of horror; the asker reminded everyone that privacy is important and it doesn't mean one is doing anything wrong.

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Post by sublinear »

vips7L wrote: post #12
Tostino wrote: post #7

Wonder how quick this will get removed off the front page, like the last one about a woman pulled over at gunpoint multiple times because the ALPR kept making a mistake. Like I said in the last thread... I went and spoke at my county commission meeting today against these cameras: https://www.youtube.com/live/1OmEmpL-7qY?t=720 I went back and got transcripts for the rest of the meetings for the day, and after saying…

> Wonder how quick this will get removed off the front page YC’s an investor after all

That's not why these are getting flagged.

The tech angle is very weak otherwise too similar to the ordinary news. It's not that we don't care or even disagree.

I'm not saying this to stir an argument either. I'm just giving an honest answer why the rest of us ordinary folk flag these. They go into the same bin as most of the AI posts.

As well, I can't speak for everyone, but the pushback replies to my comment here (if any) would likely be assumed bots/paid engagement.

This problem isn't unique to HN either. The discussion can be fine sometimes, especially if it's more about the tech than the politics, but if people wanted reddit or the ordinary news they'd be over there and wouldn't come here. You can bang your drum over there.

Re: New Bedford police officer accused of using Flock cameras to track ex-partner

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Post by pudgywalsh »

I don't see a connection to Flock specifically in this lovers' spat. If it wasn't Flock it would be any number of other things. This is a literally-who-cares incident that is being built up into something it isn't.

It's like saying she drove a Ford police car during these activities therefore Ford is evil, QED.

It's more worthy of discussion noting New Bedford is a shithole and the armpit of Mass.

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Post by rationalist »

Walf wrote: post #14
King-Aaron wrote: post #2

It was only about an hour ago I saw yet another mindless commentator on one of these threads saying "if you have nothing to hide you have nothing to worry about".

The funniest response I've read to this type of reasoning went something like this: a family gathering; topic of privacy came up; boomer-type trotted out the "nothing to hide" line; younger relative asked them if they enjoy a particular type of sexual intercourse with their spouse; red faces and looks of horror; the asker reminded everyone that privacy is important and it doesn't mean one is doing anything wrong.

"Does your phone have a passcode? What are you hiding? Can I look through your text messages?"

Re: New Bedford police officer accused of using Flock cameras to track ex-partner

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Post by lux-lux-lux »

pudgywalsh wrote: post #16

I don't see a connection to Flock specifically in this lovers' spat. If it wasn't Flock it would be any number of other things. This is a literally-who-cares incident that is being built up into something it isn't. It's like saying she drove a Ford police car during these activities therefore Ford is evil, QED. It's more worthy of discussion noting New Bedford is a shithole and the armpit of Mass.

There’s a difference between the abuse potential of ‘a car’ and ‘a nationwide surveillance network that tracks your location any time you’re on a public road’

Re: New Bedford police officer accused of using Flock cameras to track ex-partner

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Post by newsomix9xl »

pudgywalsh wrote: post #16

I don't see a connection to Flock specifically in this lovers' spat. If it wasn't Flock it would be any number of other things. This is a literally-who-cares incident that is being built up into something it isn't. It's like saying she drove a Ford police car during these activities therefore Ford is evil, QED. It's more worthy of discussion noting New Bedford is a shithole and the armpit of Mass.

Its a good example of those who say "surveillance systems can and will be used inappropriately" - a jilted lover cop with access is exactly the kind of irrational person who could do so.

A person with a Ford can do all the things car owners can do. But very few people are trusted with access to ALPR cameras.

So: I disagree.

I have no qualms with New Bedford and I'm sure it has lots of, or even mostly, upright police officers who follow the law.

Re: New Bedford police officer accused of using Flock cameras to track ex-partner

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Post by pudgywalsh »

lux-lux-lux wrote: post #18
pudgywalsh wrote: post #16

I don't see a connection to Flock specifically in this lovers' spat. If it wasn't Flock it would be any number of other things. This is a literally-who-cares incident that is being built up into something it isn't. It's like saying she drove a Ford police car during these activities therefore Ford is evil, QED. It's more worthy of discussion noting New Bedford is a shithole and the armpit of Mass.

There’s a difference between the abuse potential of ‘a car’ and ‘a nationwide surveillance network that tracks your location any time you’re on a public road’

If she used a GPS tracker instead of an ALPR as alleged, would you be demanding they be outlawed?

As it stands they're $20 on Amazon with dozens to choose from.

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