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Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
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Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
#12One doesn't make Linus disappear for some time and then arrive apologizing for stubborness and embracing the imposed CoC just for the heck of it.
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
#13What does that mean, practically? The person who installed linux on that particular device is liable? >no algorithmic feeds for minors by default Any choice of what content to display is an algorithm. Maybe they want a simple or easily explainable algorithm?
"Illinois now requires operating system providers, open source projects included, to build age verification by 2028"
however
"nothing in the bill has teeth against someone with no business presence in Illinois"
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
#14I'm surprised we're not seeing heaps of lawsuits here. Age verification in general violates privacy.
lawsuits for what? AFAIK you have no right to privacy in this sense
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Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
#16Does it even ask for verification? If not, the problem with it is that it seems to require the OS provider (not the local installation) to store the age.
No, no verification. From the post:
> "Nothing in the bill requires a passport scan or a face scan at setup. It’s self-declared, the same way most apps ask your birthday today, just centralized once at the OS level instead of repeated app by app."
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
#17I'm surprised we're not seeing heaps of lawsuits here. Age verification in general violates privacy.
> I'm surprised we're not seeing heaps of lawsuits here.
Why do you think that is?
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
#18What does that mean, practically? The person who installed linux on that particular device is liable? >no algorithmic feeds for minors by default Any choice of what content to display is an algorithm. Maybe they want a simple or easily explainable algorithm?
That part hasn't really been decided since it's a regulatory question.
Basically the bill defines
> "Operating system provider" means a commercial or non-profit entity that controls the Internet-enabled device's operating system, including the design, programming, or supply of operating systems for the Internet-enabled devices.
Which is an extremely broad definition that could be interpreted in a whole bunch of ways.
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
#19The interesting part here is enforcement. Linux isn't controlled by a single vendor, so I'm not sure who the law would actually target.
Re: Illinois just passed a law that puts Linux on the hook for age verification
#20I'm surprised we're not seeing heaps of lawsuits here. Age verification in general violates privacy.
You don't have a right to privacy. It should be covered under the 9th amendment, but the supreme court generally just ignores that amendment.
Edit: I see people don't like this comment, so here's an article about it from Wex law [1] (read under "Roe's Overturning"). The part of the Dobbs decision was removing a right to privacy and promising that it could be revisited in overturning other cases like Griswald.
The 9th amendment has never been used to establish a right to privacy, but then I don't think the 9th has ever been used to establish any right. We've used the 14th in the past to establish that right and now it seems that's no longer good law.
> While it is unclear to what extent that may have on the right to privacy in the current time; it is likely that the case law around this right will continue to evolve with more recent Supreme Court decisions.