In our village, people used to die of old age only and not due to any health problems. Village doctors used plant based medicine and treat the common illness such as fever or broken bones. This was in the 60's and 70's.
How does one die of old age?
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#12"I Saw 120 Patients This Week. Here's Why They Were Actually Sick." @DrAlexWibberley https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UiVKh97rJsg
what's the tl;dw?
B.c in modern society people don't eat enough whole foods, get good sleep b.c of alcohol and other over stimulation, not enough outdoors/consistent movements/exercise, have to be saddled with too much stress etc and end up slowly killing themselves (in unnatural ways) without realizing or potentially caring
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#13In our village, people used to die of old age only and not due to any health problems. Village doctors used plant based medicine and treat the common illness such as fever or broken bones. This was in the 60's and 70's.
How does one die of old age?
It's a bit of a facetious question, hence the downvotes, but I do think you have a point. You die of something - perhaps they're saying that people simply just... ran out of life/energy/steam and pass in their sleep? It does seem like the ideal situation.
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#14In our village, people used to die of old age only and not due to any health problems. Village doctors used plant based medicine and treat the common illness such as fever or broken bones. This was in the 60's and 70's.
What age were they when they died?
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#15In our village, people used to die of old age only and not due to any health problems. Village doctors used plant based medicine and treat the common illness such as fever or broken bones. This was in the 60's and 70's.
How does one die of old age?
My grandfather just went to sleep one night and never woke up. Mid 70's. It's clearly for 'some' reason but it wasn't some long drawn out illness like cancer or some sort of progressive congestive heart failure. Everyone just chalks that up to old age.
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#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does one die of old age?
My grandfather just went to sleep one night and never woke up. Mid 70's. It's clearly for 'some' reason but it wasn't some long drawn out illness like cancer or some sort of progressive congestive heart failure. Everyone just chalks that up to old age.
So probably things like aneurysm, burst artery in the brain, heart attack, blood clots arriving to lungs and so on.
But then there is also this shutdown where body starts switching off organs one by one, and hospital personnel know this well since its visible to trained eye, and known as time of no return. My grandfather went away like that.
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#17Medicine gets us to live longer. Food industry gets us to get sick sooner.
Food we ourselves decide to buy and eat. Nobody, absolutely nobody is blocking you or anybody else from buying tons of veggies and fruits, raw meat etc. Its cheap, cooking with it is trivial to reach cca average restaurant level of taste and one controls fully what final meal is composed of.
Some even say it tastes better when self-cooked, certainly less salty or greasy.
Then the argument comes - who has time for all that. From people who often spend unreasonable amount of time online not really doing anything worthwhile to be polite, or in front of TV if older generations.
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#18Medicine gets us to live longer. Food industry gets us to get sick sooner.
Food we ourselves decide to buy and eat. Nobody, absolutely nobody is blocking you or anybody else from buying tons of veggies and fruits, raw meat etc. Its cheap, cooking with it is trivial to reach cca average restaurant level of taste and one controls fully what final meal is composed of. Some even say it tastes better when self-cooked, certainly less salty or greasy. Then the argument comes - who has time for all…
Healthy eating is available at restaurants too (Taco Bell being an amusing example - grilled chicken, beans, vegetables, and leafy greens) but people choose not to avail themselves of it. The straw man "Average American" is conditioned by companies to enjoy textureless, mild food loaded with fat, salt, and sugar so that they're never satiated and always craving more. Fiber and texture fly in the face of this so we end up with generations of people raised to eat chicky nuggies and bacon ranch dressing with a side of iceberg lettuce because onions are icky.
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#19Choices a doctor makes keep you alive: surgery, medicine, that diagnostic scan.
The choices you make over 50+ years keep you healthy: reasonable exercise, sleep, and diet; avoiding chronic stress, drugs, tobacco, alcohol, obesity.
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#20Medicine gets us to live longer. Food industry gets us to get sick sooner.
Food we ourselves decide to buy and eat. Nobody, absolutely nobody is blocking you or anybody else from buying tons of veggies and fruits, raw meat etc. Its cheap, cooking with it is trivial to reach cca average restaurant level of taste and one controls fully what final meal is composed of. Some even say it tastes better when self-cooked, certainly less salty or greasy. Then the argument comes - who has time for all…
>Nobody, absolutely nobody is blocking you or anybody else from buying tons of veggies and fruits, raw meat etc. Its cheap, cooking with it is trivial to reach cca average restaurant level of taste and one controls fully what final meal is composed of.
Are you not familiar with the concept of food deserts?