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Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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> Marraffa says Burt is fully HIPAA compliant and that the AI is not open-source and does not generate or manipulate data. We need to fight the talking point that open source is bad!

how can it not manipulate data and still work? does it do it by magic? absolute L quote by the spokesperson

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How could something like open source ever be perceived as bad?

The idea, within regulated circles, is that it lacks provenance - there’s no vendor to sue. Many open source licenses also carry an explicit disclaimer of merchantability and fitness for purpose. These are taken seriously, and open-source software is viewed akin to car parts found on the side of the road. They could work but it’s better to let someone else verify.

But in the context of privacy it makes no sense though right? Open source and close source models (depending on vendor) both can be configured in a way that protects privacy of the user. The entire quote is wonky despite your point about companies preferring vendor-based system rather than raw dog oss

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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Companies will pawn off thier customers to AI at their peril. In many ways this is a repeat of the India call center train wrecks of the 00s. On paper, letting someone in Bangalore vs onshore handle incoming customer service calls looked like a path to amazing savings. In practice the customer experience was horrendous and companies CTRL-Zed these decisions and rapidly brought customer service back onshore again. AI…

Its still a huge and growing business and one that AI helps https://tech.yahoo.com/ai/articles/call-centres-using-ai-whi...

lol at the title

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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As someone who's been doing AI call centres for a while, I'm not surprised. It's really, really hard to build voice AI that works. There are no open source solutions that work out of the box.

But the biggest problem is ASR. WER is still atrocious even with SOTA models. When you add drug names and regional accents, it's a recipe for disaster.

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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> Marraffa says Burt is fully HIPAA compliant and that the AI is not open-source and does not generate or manipulate data. We need to fight the talking point that open source is bad!

how can it not manipulate data and still work? does it do it by magic? absolute L quote by the spokesperson

It will probably sound nice to laypersons but you're right, it has to have access to, at a minimum, a data extract with relevant information to perform it's tasks, although in my experience in the pharmacy IT world, a database view.

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The desired speed of AI adoption is what is hindering AI adoption. Big companies are trying to sell this as magic, and it's not. It requires proper use to get anything useful out of this system. But that takes away the magic of it and the investors can't have that as the eventual share price only works if it is magic. Frontier labs will smother their product with their timelines.

Re: Kinney Drugs pulls back AI phone assistant after hundreds of customer complaints

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It's interesting that I had to close 3 popups just to read this article, two of them were for tracking cookies

GDPR popups remind me of the spam popups of the 90s.

GDPR requires websites to get user consent before doing sketchy shit. You don’t need a cookie popup if you’re not a scumbag.
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