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Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by NooneAtAll3 »

zhoBEENG wrote: post #2

Obama was promoting The Age of Surveillance Capitalism over seven years ago now. Industry insiders have known all this since 1999. Yet almost every single person I know carries a cellphone and drives a car with telemetry, things that are entirely optional. Most humans use Meta products regularly; also optional. For all the feigned outrage, people want this, and will work hard every day to pay for the next iteration o…

the main solution is the same as with many other problems - education on what's wrong + making the right way as easy as possible

it's easy to fall into complain hole, as that seems to fulfill the 1st part

but 2nd part is as much or even more valuable

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by bossyTeacher »

lifestyleguru wrote: post #5
zhoBEENG wrote: post #2

Obama was promoting The Age of Surveillance Capitalism over seven years ago now. Industry insiders have known all this since 1999. Yet almost every single person I know carries a cellphone and drives a car with telemetry, things that are entirely optional. Most humans use Meta products regularly; also optional. For all the feigned outrage, people want this, and will work hard every day to pay for the next iteration o…

Almost every person installs security cameras hoping that one day they will "catch the criminal" unaware that the footage probably is used in all possible ways all the time, yet in case when the crime against them finally happens the footage might not be admitted as a proof.

> yet in case when the crime against them finally happens the footage might not be admitted as a proof.

Or there is simply not enough staff available to carry out the procedures needed to apprehend and charge the individual. Or a myriad of other things. People think law enforcement is easy.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by asmodeuslucifer »

zhoBEENG wrote: post #2

Obama was promoting The Age of Surveillance Capitalism over seven years ago now. Industry insiders have known all this since 1999. Yet almost every single person I know carries a cellphone and drives a car with telemetry, things that are entirely optional. Most humans use Meta products regularly; also optional. For all the feigned outrage, people want this, and will work hard every day to pay for the next iteration o…

By leveraging mobile network infrastructure – towers, spectrum, antennas, and some hardware – ISAC can detect, locate, and track objects (including passive ones with no electronics). This will enable a wide range of use cases such as UAV airspace monitoring, autonomous vehicle safety, industrial automation, and immersive AR experiences. Commercial deployment is expected alongside 6G rollouts in the 2030 timeframe

https://www.ericsson.com/en/6g/isac

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by Razengan »

antics9 wrote: post #6
Razengan wrote: post #3

The EFF or some other watchdog should put out some public ads that depict corporations as a creepy person stalking someone: It's a lot more disgusting and universally hated when you hear about a peeping tom, or a pervert, or a jealous ex hounding someone, but when faceless corporations and governments do it to EVERYBODY 24/7, everyone's like, ehh. I mean, right now, just think about me, clicking on your HN profile, g…

No. Why should I find you repulsive? You might find something I wrote interesting. Then whatever public info there is on me helps you to get to know me a bit better. You may stop there and forget about me, or you may try to reach out. There is nothing wrong about that.

> Why should I find you repulsive?

Me googling your shit might lead to your real name, your family photos etc

Just because it's all public doesn't mean you want the cashier from the supermarket following you around to your family picnic

or just because you like to let the sunlight in doesn't mean you want random pedestrians peering in through your windows..

I can't believe this needs to be spelled out here: "Public" life is compartmentalized.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by neonstatic »

zhoBEENG wrote: post #2

Obama was promoting The Age of Surveillance Capitalism over seven years ago now. Industry insiders have known all this since 1999. Yet almost every single person I know carries a cellphone and drives a car with telemetry, things that are entirely optional. Most humans use Meta products regularly; also optional. For all the feigned outrage, people want this, and will work hard every day to pay for the next iteration o…

> For all the feigned outrage, people want this, and will work hard every day to pay for the next iteration of the surveillance apparatus.

My sad realization is that the Buddhists were right all along. The primary drivers of human mind, before self-purification, are greed, anger, and ignorance. What you are describing here is greed. People want to get useful things for free. This is the core of the problem. If people were, by default, expecting to pay for everything they use, spying on them would not be accepted. Instead, they want stuff for free and they choose to be willfully blind to the spying.

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by fragmede »

jareklupinski wrote: post #8
Razengan wrote: post #3

The EFF or some other watchdog should put out some public ads that depict corporations as a creepy person stalking someone: It's a lot more disgusting and universally hated when you hear about a peeping tom, or a pervert, or a jealous ex hounding someone, but when faceless corporations and governments do it to EVERYBODY 24/7, everyone's like, ehh. I mean, right now, just think about me, clicking on your HN profile, g…

i get a little thrill knowing im that important to someone :)

Right? There are 8 billion humans on those planet. You are 0.0000000125% of humanity. No one outside your family and friends even knows you, nevermind gives a shit about you, unless you stick out in some way. If GP wants to take a tour of my GitHub or my blog and send me a thoughtful email, I'd be delighted!

Re: Everything you do is being recorded

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Post by fn-mote »

NooneAtAll3 wrote: post #11
zhoBEENG wrote: post #2

Obama was promoting The Age of Surveillance Capitalism over seven years ago now. Industry insiders have known all this since 1999. Yet almost every single person I know carries a cellphone and drives a car with telemetry, things that are entirely optional. Most humans use Meta products regularly; also optional. For all the feigned outrage, people want this, and will work hard every day to pay for the next iteration o…

the main solution is the same as with many other problems - education on what's wrong + making the right way as easy as possible it's easy to fall into complain hole, as that seems to fulfill the 1st part but 2nd part is as much or even more valuable

> making the right way as easy as possible

I wish I knew what you were talking about here.

It seems like the easy way would be to forbid the collection of this data… but that is obviously not happening, so I need a different part 2.

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