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How can a junior dev get better when they have to use AI in their job?

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Re: How can a junior dev get better when they have to use AI in their job?

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Post by yogesharc »

tedmundy wrote: post #10
yogesharc wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it's not even about wanting to tokenmaxx. It does not make sense to write code yourself when AI can do i insanely fast. Whole day of manual coding can be done in 30 minutes (just talking about writing code, not reviews and testing). For mid and senior level devs this is the way to do it. write plan, ask ai to code, ai review for bugs and at the end human review. But its so bad for juniors. With how fast ai is getting…

> It does not make sense to write code yourself when AI can do i insanely fast For me, it is about more than just writing the code. It's understanding it, it's understanding what it affects, it's understanding where it lives amongst the other systems that are already in place - and what systems could be in place. AI is not very good at picking this up. It can tell you what it affects, probably, but the rest I have fo…

I meant it for a company. I agree with you on personal side.

AI can tell a lot of things, but its different when AI tells you vs when you do it and figure things out. When ai tells you about it, it can feel like learning when in reality you are not actually learning it.

Re: How can a junior dev get better when they have to use AI in their job?

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Post by WheelsAtLarge »

AI is and is only going to dig deeper into the profession. Your job now is to embrace it and learn to use it to create solutions. The old model of getting specs from a manager of some kind and turning them into code is quickly going away. You job is to help define the specs and writing the instructions for the AI to program. Also, reading code like it's text in a book is a must. Writing code is quickly becoming something of the past. I suspect that programming is going to be more like putting together blocks of code that are completely debuged will be the future. The true valuable skill will be understanding what a human customer needs and getting the machine to write it. That skill will not go away any time soon.

Re: How can a junior dev get better when they have to use AI in their job?

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Post by yogesharc »

conartist6 wrote: post #9
yogesharc wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

you are just repeating what i mean. let me know if you have any insight on how to improve within the constraint, other than basic answers like use llm to teach not to work, design the architecture yourself, work on your own projects on your free time. Hard work has now gotten extra hard for juniors. And you can't keep up with the advancement of AI.

I promise you proof-positive that you can not only keep up with but outstrip AI advancement. Just keep learning!!! Feed yourself XP and challenges like you are playing a video game. Don't ask the LLM to mentor you, instead ask yourself questions and try to answer them because your want to know the answer for yourself .

thanks will do.

Re: How can a junior dev get better when they have to use AI in their job?

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Post by yogesharc »

WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #12

AI is and is only going to dig deeper into the profession. Your job now is to embrace it and learn to use it to create solutions. The old model of getting specs from a manager of some kind and turning them into code is quickly going away. You job is to help define the specs and writing the instructions for the AI to program. Also, reading code like it's text in a book is a must. Writing code is quickly becoming somet…

you can't read code if you can't write it.

ability to read code and finding issues in the code you read is a different thing too.

Re: How can a junior dev get better when they have to use AI in their job?

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Post by WheelsAtLarge »

yogesharc wrote: post #14
WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #12

AI is and is only going to dig deeper into the profession. Your job now is to embrace it and learn to use it to create solutions. The old model of getting specs from a manager of some kind and turning them into code is quickly going away. You job is to help define the specs and writing the instructions for the AI to program. Also, reading code like it's text in a book is a must. Writing code is quickly becoming somet…

you can't read code if you can't write it. ability to read code and finding issues in the code you read is a different thing too.

Obviously writing it will help but reading and understanding other's code is much more helpful at both reading and writing it. The more you read code the better you will get at reading it and writing it. Writing code will only get you so far. Reading code will expand your abilities so much more. Of course it has to be active reading. If you don't understand something, you need to take the time to Figure out why. You can't just skip it. Even code armatures will improve by reading as much code as possible,
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