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France is banning unsolicited telemarketing calls starting next week

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Re: France is banning unsolicited telemarketing calls starting next week

#11

It happened in Spain months ago. Then the "marketers" start calling from international phone numbers.

Let them pay international rates. One dollar a minute, eh?

If they're calling from within the EU then a cross-country judgement is still enforceable, so I assume they aren't doing that.

Re: France is banning unsolicited telemarketing calls starting next week

#13
post #4

There is a grey area here of calls from businesses which the customer is signed up to, or has had previous dealings with. Many will be unsolicited but not all will be. Many of these calls are coming out of the Third World countries which are barely regulated in this regard, so good luck with enforcing it.

> There is a grey area here of calls from businesses which the customer is signed up to Pretty much exactly how it is in Switzerland. I once had a rather unpleasant experience with my old internet provider (Sunrise) where I asked the telemarketer who called me not to do so again, and was told they "had a right to do so, because I was a customer". I immediately cancelled, quoting this as the reason why (Sunrise would…

Another moment of potential irritation: companies being bought out or losing their network supplier giving that third company a business relationship with you.

Re: France is banning unsolicited telemarketing calls starting next week

#15
post #11

It happened in Spain months ago. Then the "marketers" start calling from international phone numbers.

Let them pay international rates. One dollar a minute, eh? If they're calling from within the EU then a cross-country judgement is still enforceable, so I assume they aren't doing that.

Is it though in practice?

Re: France is banning unsolicited telemarketing calls starting next week

#16
post #11

It happened in Spain months ago. Then the "marketers" start calling from international phone numbers.

Let them pay international rates. One dollar a minute, eh? If they're calling from within the EU then a cross-country judgement is still enforceable, so I assume they aren't doing that.

"International rates" aren't a thing anymore since the advent of VOIP. It doesn't matter whether you're connecting from France or Fiji, with VOIP you pay the same rate.

Re: France is banning unsolicited telemarketing calls starting next week

#17

There is a grey area here of calls from businesses which the customer is signed up to, or has had previous dealings with. Many will be unsolicited but not all will be. Many of these calls are coming out of the Third World countries which are barely regulated in this regard, so good luck with enforcing it.

Companies aren't allowed to do cold calling in my country. Wiped out an entire industry and nobody wept. Scams are not what I would define as "telemarketing" though.

It would be helpful to know your country in this thread.

Re: France is banning unsolicited telemarketing calls starting next week

#18
Australia banned telemarketing a while ago, it worked pretty well. The only spam phone calls left are 100% illegal scammers.

https://www.acma.gov.au/telemarketing-and-e-marketing they give out million+ dollar fines which sort things out. Just being a customer doesn't allow them to send marketing, you have to opt in.

Re: France is banning unsolicited telemarketing calls starting next week

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post #11

It happened in Spain months ago. Then the "marketers" start calling from international phone numbers.

Let them pay international rates. One dollar a minute, eh? If they're calling from within the EU then a cross-country judgement is still enforceable, so I assume they aren't doing that.

International rates are just a consumer thing.

Re: France is banning unsolicited telemarketing calls starting next week

#20
post #18

Australia banned telemarketing a while ago, it worked pretty well. The only spam phone calls left are 100% illegal scammers. https://www.acma.gov.au/telemarketing-and-e-marketing they give out million+ dollar fines which sort things out. Just being a customer doesn't allow them to send marketing, you have to opt in.

It's the year 2026, I refuse to believe that phone companies cannot figure out who is a scammer and who is not.
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