It's not a fear of "AI communism"; it's a fear of competitive market capitalism

Post by vrganj » Tue, Aug 04, 2026, 6:02 PM UTC

guywithahat wrote: post #10

vrganj wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

LLMs are ideology made code . "Alignment" is the act of making sure the technology reproduces the ruling ideology of the regime that produced it. There is no such thing as "unbiased". It's only ever "following our own biases". When Zuck released LLaMA 4, the announcement post stated that historically LLMs have "leaned left" and that they've been trying to "remove that bias". [0] Translated to the real world, that mea…

> that means that they've been trying to impart a right wing ideology to further the goals of the American ruling elite I agree in principle, but it's pretty widely understood that LLM's lean heavily left. Zuckerberg as well is pretty left wing, and donated hundreds of millions fighting Trump. I think the issue they're running into is that as these models are used by more and more normal people, and those normal peop…

Post by pbiggar » Tue, Aug 04, 2026, 6:12 PM UTC

dTal wrote: post #8

Hardly anybody is talking about the biggest political aspect of open weight LLMs (actually, any LLMs): Because they instantly and reliably(tm) give you the information you want in the format you want it in, they are going to replace the web search as the dominant mode through which information is disseminated - if, indeed, this hasn't already happened. As such, LLMs are effectively a form of publishing for their trai…

Post by plastic-enjoyer » Tue, Aug 04, 2026, 6:16 PM UTC

znpy wrote: post #5

jqpabc123 wrote: post #3

Bottom line: China wins. Self isolation by the USA won't change the overall results. Isolation is weakness, not strength. It is a prescription for economic stagnation, decline and exploitation by home grown corporate interests that won't/can't compete anywhere else. The best opportunity to counter China was with full cooperation from the rest of the world. This adminstration has rejected this opportunity --- and is i…

Eh, not quite. China is not “just china”, it’s a totalitarian regime without freedom if speech, without worker’s rights and without many/most of the freedoms we take for granted. “China wins” is really “modern hyper/technological communist totalitarian regime wins”

Post by platevoltage » Tue, Aug 04, 2026, 6:23 PM UTC

ericmay wrote: post #7

theplumber wrote: post #6

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They will be like Windows Server. Expensive, restricted and overall worse than the open stuff but somehow sill generate some sales

No they won't. They'll offer far superior models at a premium price and they'll capture most of the profits similar to iPhone versus the Android manufacturers. US companies will also release open source models and lower-cost options that will compete with any open source models released by any other country, except when you ask US/western models what happened at Tiananmen Square they'll give you an answer instead of…

Post by javcasas » Tue, Aug 04, 2026, 6:26 PM UTC

dTal wrote: post #8

Hardly anybody is talking about the biggest political aspect of open weight LLMs (actually, any LLMs): Because they instantly and reliably(tm) give you the information you want in the format you want it in, they are going to replace the web search as the dominant mode through which information is disseminated - if, indeed, this hasn't already happened. As such, LLMs are effectively a form of publishing for their trai…