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Re: Deflock Casa Grande

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Post by phoghed »

VTimofeenko wrote: post #6
IncreasePosts wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speak for yourself. I don't mind this type of surveillance personally.

That's your right, but the problem is that cameras are in public and some people do mind this.

I believe they mean they don’t mind if others are surveilled against their will

Re: Deflock Casa Grande

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Post by TeMPOraL »

UmYeahNo wrote: post #7
Barbing wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still hyper-local but much more efficient than one retiree holding a sign in front of one camera! Kudos to all doing it nondestructively.

I wonder if this is as efficient or as effective. The guy holding the skimmer was viral and garnered a lot of attention to the situation. This site, while something I support, probably won't. Maybe it'll be the place people find after learning about the guy holding the sign. Now, if the guy holding the skimmer had a sign with the URL on it, then we're on to something.

> Now, if the guy holding the skimmer had a sign with the URL on it, then we're on to something.

Or a QR code.

(Extra points for a hand-drawn QR code. Yes, it takes patience (or grid paper), but it's easier than it sounds.)

Re: Deflock Casa Grande

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Post by xyzsparetimexyz »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #4
josefritzishere wrote: post #2

This sort of hyper-local protest is the way to go. Nobody wants to be surveilled.

Speak for yourself. I don't mind this type of surveillance personally.

While such a surveillance system appears to (kinda) work in China, do you really trust American companies and the American police system to implement it at anywhere close to that level of competency?

Re: Deflock Casa Grande

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Post by SoftTalker »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #4
josefritzishere wrote: post #2

This sort of hyper-local protest is the way to go. Nobody wants to be surveilled.

Speak for yourself. I don't mind this type of surveillance personally.

It's not the cameras I mind per-se. They have legitmately been used to solve some crimes that might have gone unsolved otherwise.

But the problem is the cameras are pervasive. It's not like a red light camera, or a speed zone camera, or a toll road camera, that has a specific purpose in a specific location. And it's the building of a database, and correlation of data from point to point, and the potential abuse. We have documented cases of cops abusing Flock data to stalk exes, And history proves that any time you collect data about a group of people, it will eventually if not immediately be abused.

You can propose all the warrants and anonymizing and other restrictions that you might like to control who looks at the data and when, but at the end of the day it's all about trusting those in power who have control of the data, and that's not a good thing to do. The government does not (or should not) have the right to track the public to this degree as they go about their daily personal business.

Re: Deflock Casa Grande

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Post by user102030 »

extr wrote: post #9

Well made website IMO. Gets to the point with plenty of easy-to-understand evidence and calls to action.

Feels like every other site that AI generates. Hard to tell what the creators believe and what is just probabilistically generated.

Re: Deflock Casa Grande

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Post by ARandomerDude »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #4
josefritzishere wrote: post #2

This sort of hyper-local protest is the way to go. Nobody wants to be surveilled.

Speak for yourself. I don't mind this type of surveillance personally.

That's because you haven't thought it through. "We only want info on the bad people" might not alarm you personally until any government entity changes the definition of bad and now you're a "bad guy".

Re: Deflock Casa Grande

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Post by applfanboysbgon »

IncreasePosts wrote: post #4
josefritzishere wrote: post #2

This sort of hyper-local protest is the way to go. Nobody wants to be surveilled.

Speak for yourself. I don't mind this type of surveillance personally.

Would you care to elaborate on why you don't mind individuals being stalked by employees with zero oversight or accountability, and why you don't mind protestors being monitored by the government? Since those are both part of "this type of surveillance", and are a pretty fucking crazy thing to state you're okay with with no argument for them. Do you perhaps lack the imagination to consider how this would affect your life if a government that did not agree with your political views came into power sometime in the future and were to use "this type of surveillance" against you?
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