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The growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras

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Re: The growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by ButlerianJihad »

Congratulations, Flock, on establishing the most successful honeypot of all time!

No matter what the level of corruption, no matter which side of the surveillance state you support, no matter which side of the cameras you're on, Flock has a way to shine a spotlight on you and bring you out of the closet!

Currently following a YouTuber who knows all the roadside regulations for signposts and he points out how the Flock poles are all installed dangerously wrong, and will surely impale the next driver to crash out on the shoulder!

Re: The growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by mannanj »

goodmythical wrote: post #6
ungreased0675 wrote: post #2

When people feel like their voice isn’t heard, this is the inevitable result.

I had this thought just the other day. It is not possible for any governing body to completely ignore the governed unless the governed have no issues that that lead to speach/action. There will always be a petition/revolt/exodus which results in the governing body hearing the governed.

> the governed unless the governed have no issues that that lead to speach/action

What about if the speech is censored, shadow-banned, limited etc in some other ways? Where the governed does not know their speech was limited in reach, censored etc? (which btw is a real approach social media companies are taking today).

Re: The growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by georgemcbay »

themythfable wrote: post #9

Passed an old guy sitting on the side of the road with a lawn chair today, he was holding a pool skimmer with cardboard attached at the end to block a flock camera. There was a local news story about it [1]. Happy to see it. [1] https://www.cltampa.com/news/a-77-year-old-republican-man-is...

I'm sure my politics are very different than that man's, but at least we agree on the fact that Flock fucking sucks.

Re: The growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by samrus »

mannanj wrote: post #12
goodmythical wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had this thought just the other day. It is not possible for any governing body to completely ignore the governed unless the governed have no issues that that lead to speach/action. There will always be a petition/revolt/exodus which results in the governing body hearing the governed.

> the governed unless the governed have no issues that that lead to speach/action What about if the speech is censored, shadow-banned, limited etc in some other ways? Where the governed does not know their speech was limited in reach, censored etc? (which btw is a real approach social media companies are taking today).

Theyll see no effect of their speech, and try something else. Like voting, protests, and violence. In thay order

Re: The growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by felixgallo »

mannanj wrote: post #12
goodmythical wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had this thought just the other day. It is not possible for any governing body to completely ignore the governed unless the governed have no issues that that lead to speach/action. There will always be a petition/revolt/exodus which results in the governing body hearing the governed.

> the governed unless the governed have no issues that that lead to speach/action What about if the speech is censored, shadow-banned, limited etc in some other ways? Where the governed does not know their speech was limited in reach, censored etc? (which btw is a real approach social media companies are taking today).

the right to free speech has nothing to do with what social media companies do. Social media companies are not compelled by anything, in law or otherwise, to amplify your particular post.

Re: The growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by mylifeandtimes »

superkuh wrote: post #4

Lets instead talk about the growing vigalante action by Flock corporation refusing to allow cities to remove cameras from their property after the contract is cancelled. Some cities have been forced to cover the cameras with trash bags. https://www.404media.co/flock-objects-to-our-removing-their-... https://www.wmtv15news.com/2026/06/05/dane-county-covers-flo...

If I were a city government, I would just start charging Flock rent.

Re: The growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by Avicebron »

helterskelter wrote: post #10
superkuh wrote: post #4

Lets instead talk about the growing vigalante action by Flock corporation refusing to allow cities to remove cameras from their property after the contract is cancelled. Some cities have been forced to cover the cameras with trash bags. https://www.404media.co/flock-objects-to-our-removing-their-... https://www.wmtv15news.com/2026/06/05/dane-county-covers-flo...

Local politicians need to coordinate to remove their Flock cameras at the same time and pass laws to prevent any new one from being put up. Flock doesn't have the resources to sue every single one of them, especially if every city commits to dragging out the process for as long as possible by creating as many legal hurdles as they can, all of which Flock would have to have a court rule on. Kind of like how practicall…

It's also wild to me we live in a country where people who _live_ in a region are not allowed to make decisions about something as foul as surveillance cameras. If people who live, work, and are affected by these don't want them that should be the end of the conversation.

It should be to the people who live in an area to make decisions about it. With the legal ability to tell a company like Flock to fuck off.

Re: The growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by theendisney »

ungreased0675 wrote: post #2

When people feel like their voice isn’t heard, this is the inevitable result.

Violence and destruction are perfectly natural ways of communicating. Some animals use sounds and almost all use body language.

One could even argue communicating over the phone or internet lacks the destructive component. Irl behavior is heavily modified by it.

Verbal communication is a work in progress. We really want it to work. Sometimes you have to make people listen. Get them back in the program :)

Re: The growing vigilante movement to knock out Flock surveillance cameras

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Post by madrental »

georgemcbay wrote: post #14
themythfable wrote: post #9

Passed an old guy sitting on the side of the road with a lawn chair today, he was holding a pool skimmer with cardboard attached at the end to block a flock camera. There was a local news story about it [1]. Happy to see it. [1] https://www.cltampa.com/news/a-77-year-old-republican-man-is...

I'm sure my politics are very different than that man's, but at least we agree on the fact that Flock fucking sucks.

Despite differences in political beliefs you probably have more in common with this man than any of the politicians that claim to care about your or your values.
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