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Czechia moves to ban mobile phones in schools from September 2027

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Re: Czechia moves to ban mobile phones in schools from September 2027

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The only friction here is 'you're not allowed to do that' - which doesn't typically work on teenagers. We had the same rules for dumbbphones and iPod's 20 years ago and it didn't work then.

In many US schools, they'd take those things away (and return them at end of day, typically) 20-30 years ago. But it helps when it's policy, if it's not a policy then the teacher has no backing from the school.

Re: Czechia moves to ban mobile phones in schools from September 2027

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The only friction here is 'you're not allowed to do that' - which doesn't typically work on teenagers. We had the same rules for dumbbphones and iPod's 20 years ago and it didn't work then.

It definitely reduced usesge though. I was the same age in teens with dumb phones and they were only banned in class. Either way, it's better to have the restrictions in this case than a free for all because teenagers will push limits constantly. I don't see a downside to this.

Re: Czechia moves to ban mobile phones in schools from September 2027

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How is this effective at all? Every kid will continue to use them surreptitiously, as they always have.

This type of repetitive comment[1] is a bit like the bike lanes discussion: 1.City introduces bike lanes on street. 2. Residents complain about parking spaces going away, businesses complain about future bankruptcies due to fewer customers, general uproar is huge. 3. Residents discover bike lanes are quiet, and they also reduce ambient noise levels due to reduced car traffic, air is also cleaner, roads and intersecti…

and completely seriously:

7. right-wing gains power and bans bike lanes anyway, labeling them "leftist"

city after city in various states/countries

but back to phones

the real problem is they can't rule that parents must be responsible for their children

I find the moral panic about kids with phones/internet access fascinating

because of course it's a problem, but it's not the root cause of the problem

ps. I am so old we weren't allowed to have calculators in school, absolutely forbidden

Re: Czechia moves to ban mobile phones in schools from September 2027

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I don't understand the legislative pushes for some of these things. Schools can already say "no phones during instructional hours". Many of them do. I guess legislating it can mandate the policy across a school district, state, country etc., so perhaps that makes sense. But others call for outright bans for kids, all the time. Parents can also restrict usage or set rules for appropriate use. Many do.

Have you talked to a teacher lately?

Re: Czechia moves to ban mobile phones in schools from September 2027

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The only friction here is 'you're not allowed to do that' - which doesn't typically work on teenagers. We had the same rules for dumbbphones and iPod's 20 years ago and it didn't work then.

If it’s legally grounded you get more options.

Re: Czechia moves to ban mobile phones in schools from September 2027

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Workplace next!

I think you might need to narrow down what kind of workplaces... A taxi/bus driver, agreed. A an integration engineer, hard disagree.

Either way, when you're an adult, assuming you would be in a workplace, you're maturity should decide. If you want to be a distracted employee and risk termination, you're an adult.

Re: Czechia moves to ban mobile phones in schools from September 2027

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I don't understand the legislative pushes for some of these things. Schools can already say "no phones during instructional hours". Many of them do. I guess legislating it can mandate the policy across a school district, state, country etc., so perhaps that makes sense. But others call for outright bans for kids, all the time. Parents can also restrict usage or set rules for appropriate use. Many do.

Parents are responsible for a surprisingly large fraction of the notifications kids get at school

Re: Czechia moves to ban mobile phones in schools from September 2027

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How is this effective at all? Every kid will continue to use them surreptitiously, as they always have.

This type of repetitive comment[1] is a bit like the bike lanes discussion: 1.City introduces bike lanes on street. 2. Residents complain about parking spaces going away, businesses complain about future bankruptcies due to fewer customers, general uproar is huge. 3. Residents discover bike lanes are quiet, and they also reduce ambient noise levels due to reduced car traffic, air is also cleaner, roads and intersecti…

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Re: Czechia moves to ban mobile phones in schools from September 2027

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post #7

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How is this effective at all? Every kid will continue to use them surreptitiously, as they always have.

This type of repetitive comment[1] is a bit like the bike lanes discussion: 1.City introduces bike lanes on street. 2. Residents complain about parking spaces going away, businesses complain about future bankruptcies due to fewer customers, general uproar is huge. 3. Residents discover bike lanes are quiet, and they also reduce ambient noise levels due to reduced car traffic, air is also cleaner, roads and intersecti…

Must be location dependent. Where I live you never move beyond 2.
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