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Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by homebrewer »

RattlesnakeJake wrote: post #9
rustyhancock wrote: post #3

> It is now possible to merge multiple PDFs by dragging a PDF into the PDF sidebar. > It is now possible to add images as new pages within PDFs using the Firefox PDF editor. I have always found it odd that browsers are also PDF editors increasingly.

It's odd and I'm not sure I love it compared to a nicely-done dedicated viewer (macOS Preview, SumatraPDF, whatever comes with GNOME or KDE). That said, I'll pick the in-browser tools over Adobe Reader every time.

It's better than any of them for random bullshit you've found somewhere on the internet since it provides a far stronger security boundary than any standalone pdf reader. For trusted documents, I agree.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by dragonwriter »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #4

- extremely stupid question but please entertain me here a bit - why dont any of the modern browsers open and load pages instantaneously anymore, why does it take seconds? - is this because of backward compatibility support where you are supporting html, css and JS features all the way back to the 90s - apart from gecko and v8 why dont we have browser engines? - are you familiar with anyone building an entire browser…

> apart from gecko and v8 why dont we have browser engines?

You mean apart from Gecko and Blink (v8 is a JS engine, not a browser engine.)

But we do, for open source engines we also have WebKit and NetSurf and some others.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by crote »

ls612 wrote: post #7
crote wrote: post #2

> Firefox now verifies and displays Qualified Website Authentication Certificates (QWACs) in accordance with eIDAS regulations. Interesting that they just buried this in the middle without even a screenshot, considering how hostile Mozilla has been to the proposal in the past[0]. Considering that they previously made quite strong arguments that implementing QWAC would undermine security by completely bypassing the ex…

Mozilla’s executives don’t want to get arrested. It’s one thing to tell the Kazakhs to stuff it. Quite another to tell the EU, especially if any of them like overseas vacations.

If they are solely doing it for legal reasons, I would expect some form of malicious compliance - like an accompanying blog post explaining how it'll be marked as "Firefox is legally required to tell you the EU considers this page safe. We disagree. [Learn More]" and that the mark will only be shown to EU users.

Complying to the exact letter of a stupid law to avoid getting sued is understandable. Voluntarily complying to the broadest interpretation without any pushback is not.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by postalcoder »

rustyhancock wrote: post #3

> It is now possible to merge multiple PDFs by dragging a PDF into the PDF sidebar. > It is now possible to add images as new pages within PDFs using the Firefox PDF editor. I have always found it odd that browsers are also PDF editors increasingly.

Not odd until you try to open a PDF in Windows.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by kokada »

unethical_ban wrote: post #8

They note containers as a new feature. Does this mean containers are shipping with the base installation, instead of as an extension?

It seems so, especially because they explicitly say in the help page[1] that "Multi-Account Containers" brings "a few benefits on top of the native container functionality like site-specific container assignments, syncing across devices, and integration with Mozilla VPN or your own proxy".

[1]: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-use-firefox-contain...

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by zaxcellent »

crote wrote: post #2

> Firefox now verifies and displays Qualified Website Authentication Certificates (QWACs) in accordance with eIDAS regulations. Interesting that they just buried this in the middle without even a screenshot, considering how hostile Mozilla has been to the proposal in the past[0]. Considering that they previously made quite strong arguments that implementing QWAC would undermine security by completely bypassing the ex…

It seems like Mozilla negotiated with the EU to assuage their security concerns[0].

[0]: https://securityriskahead.eu/

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by madhato »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #4

- extremely stupid question but please entertain me here a bit - why dont any of the modern browsers open and load pages instantaneously anymore, why does it take seconds? - is this because of backward compatibility support where you are supporting html, css and JS features all the way back to the 90s - apart from gecko and v8 why dont we have browser engines? - are you familiar with anyone building an entire browser…

Ladybird is a has new browser engine and coming along nicely: https://ladybird.org/

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by rjsw »

rustyhancock wrote: post #3

> It is now possible to merge multiple PDFs by dragging a PDF into the PDF sidebar. > It is now possible to add images as new pages within PDFs using the Firefox PDF editor. I have always found it odd that browsers are also PDF editors increasingly.

Does it work with the DRM stuff that can be in a PDF?

I have a PDF that I can't view at all.

Re: Firefox 153.0 Beta

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Post by mjorgers »

vivzkestrel wrote: post #4

- extremely stupid question but please entertain me here a bit - why dont any of the modern browsers open and load pages instantaneously anymore, why does it take seconds? - is this because of backward compatibility support where you are supporting html, css and JS features all the way back to the 90s - apart from gecko and v8 why dont we have browser engines? - are you familiar with anyone building an entire browser…

> are you familiar with anyone building an entire browser engine from scratch?

Ladybird [1] is exactly that. Started as browser for the SerenityOS project [2] but ended up being spun off as its own project.

[1] https://ladybird.org/ [2] https://serenityos.org/

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