>Do you ever use print() or log() to debug your code? I haven't written my own code in months at this point...kind of depressing to think about
My first thought as well. Debugging is actually a decent use case of AI.
IceCream – Never use print() to debug again
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Re: IceCream – Never use print() to debug again
#12...use slightly fancier print() instead!
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#13>Do you ever use print() or log() to debug your code? I haven't written my own code in months at this point...kind of depressing to think about
My first thought as well. Debugging is actually a decent use case of AI.
I have a board with a logic analyzer, debug/flash probe, PSU, and multimeter on my desk being driven and debugged all autonomously by the AI.
While the automation and systems side of my brain is thrilled that all of this id automated and integrated, developer brain is sad
Re: IceCream – Never use print() to debug again
#14Or use tests and/or a debugger. Which gives you all the listed benefits w/o an additional dependency.
Different tools for different cases. Debuggers are great for a snapshot in time but print statements are better for seeing the execution flow.
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#15It's neat how trivial it is to do this in C, only takes a couple of macros. https://github.com/trvv/_/blob/d4899741c4f35833b8e86d16e2163...
Looks like the project has a linked repo that appears to do a similar thing for C but it doesn't generically format the arguments.
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#16>Do you ever use print() or log() to debug your code? I haven't written my own code in months at this point...kind of depressing to think about
So what do you actually do then?
Re: IceCream – Never use print() to debug again
#17Cannot recommend icecream, way too slow. But the use case of logging shines with realtime systems, or concurrent apps. You won't be able to efficiently debug them without logging. I live in my debugger, but logging is mandatory for the big picture.
Re: IceCream – Never use print() to debug again
#18Yeah this is a miss for me. I've never felt that this was a considerable source of friction. Certainly not enough to justify a dependency.
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#19>Do you ever use print() or log() to debug your code? I haven't written my own code in months at this point...kind of depressing to think about
i got half way through the readme for this project and had the same thought and got sad and just left the page
Re: IceCream – Never use print() to debug again
#20Cannot recommend icecream, way too slow. But the use case of logging shines with realtime systems, or concurrent apps. You won't be able to efficiently debug them without logging. I live in my debugger, but logging is mandatory for the big picture.
hey! icecream author here. what/how/where is icecream too slow for your use case(s)? feedback is how good products become great