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Topcoat: The full full-stack framework for Rust

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Re: Topcoat: The full full-stack framework for Rust

#13

Post by frio »

Exciting, but I’d give a lot for an equivalent to Django. There are very few problems I need to solve that are fixed by htmx style “full stack” apps, but many that are solved by the generated admin, authentication framework, caching, eventing etc.

Unfortunately, you end up bound to Python’s poor performance and poor typing stories, which Rust solves in spades.

Re: Topcoat: The full full-stack framework for Rust

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Post by jjice »

Oh man I'd love a nice full stack framework in Rust! Django, Laravel, and Rails are very neat. I used to be a micro framework kind of guy, but having everything integrated is more and more appealing over the last few years.

This would take a long time to get feature complete with the core of those big full stack frameworks, but I'm rooting for it! Getting to use the Rust type system with a full stack web framework sounds incredible.

Re: Topcoat: The full full-stack framework for Rust

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Post by carllerche »

jjice wrote: post #14

Oh man I'd love a nice full stack framework in Rust! Django, Laravel, and Rails are very neat. I used to be a micro framework kind of guy, but having everything integrated is more and more appealing over the last few years. This would take a long time to get feature complete with the core of those big full stack frameworks, but I'm rooting for it! Getting to use the Rust type system with a full stack web framework so…

Yes, that is the goal. Those frameworks have a bit (more than a decade) head start though :) there is a lot to build.

There already is an ORM (https://github.com/tokio-rs/toasty/). You can see a sketch of the roadmap here: https://github.com/tokio-rs/topcoat/issues/104

Re: Topcoat: The full full-stack framework for Rust

#18

Post by westurner »

frio wrote: post #13

Exciting, but I’d give a lot for an equivalent to Django. There are very few problems I need to solve that are fixed by htmx style “full stack” apps, but many that are solved by the generated admin, authentication framework, caching, eventing etc. Unfortunately, you end up bound to Python’s poor performance and poor typing stories, which Rust solves in spades.

Here's a v0.0.2 jinja2rs built on minijinja with optional python compatibility; CompatMode::Django(…) Django template language (filters, app-directory loader, auto-escape) :

jinja2rs::filters : https://github.com/westurner/dsport/blob/main/src/jinja2rs/s...

jinja2rs::filters::django : https://github.com/westurner/dsport/blob/main/src/jinja2rs/s...

Which Rust components are like the Django ORM and django.contrib.admin and DRF/FastAPI; with convention over configuration and tests and great docs?

Re: Topcoat: The full full-stack framework for Rust

#20

Post by biorach »

carllerche wrote: post #17
jjice wrote: post #14

Oh man I'd love a nice full stack framework in Rust! Django, Laravel, and Rails are very neat. I used to be a micro framework kind of guy, but having everything integrated is more and more appealing over the last few years. This would take a long time to get feature complete with the core of those big full stack frameworks, but I'm rooting for it! Getting to use the Rust type system with a full stack web framework so…

Yes, that is the goal. Those frameworks have a bit (more than a decade) head start though :) there is a lot to build. There already is an ORM ( https://github.com/tokio-rs/toasty/ ). You can see a sketch of the roadmap here: https://github.com/tokio-rs/topcoat/issues/104

> Those frameworks have a bit (more than a decade) head start

A decade? More like 21 years

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