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Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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I think it’s important to highlight that the timing of this article comes right after Tucker Carlsons monologue and podcast “Flock Cameras and the Coming Slave State”. Would wager a bet this is a paid piece for Forbes for PR damage control.

Garrett probably thought by making those statements a year ago he could get political support from the current administration and population. Looks like that was a bad bet.

I actually think the service Flock provides could be interesting but the complete lack of guardrails makes it a no go.

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What has Flock ever done for the US people? At least the Chinese Police State lifted hundreds of millions out of poverty next to the terrible things they’ve done. I’m saying this only part jokingly but one has to wonder where exactly are all the real benefits promised by those sinking the US deeper and deeper in surveillance.

Flock has been useful enough in the Pacific Northwest for car thefts. I want them removed, however.

Modern car thefts are just a side effect of some terrible design decisions though. If you buy a car with a physical key required to unlock it the likelihood of it being stolen is severely reduced - it's not zero, of course, window smashing and hotwiring are still issues. But the fact that a continuously transmitted signal can be used to unlock and start a car is such a dumb idea for such a small gain in convenience.

Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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Activists are not Terrorists. However, this is a clear case that points to the idea that in damage control, you never apologize. It just creates more news about the situation.

Activists are terrorists if they're leftist, not white, or not Christian.

Otherwise they're patriots.

Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

#16

American's don't want to live under constant surveillance, inside an open air prison. That idea should not be hard to understand.

They want to surveil widely though. Witness Ring and Amazon. Little Brothers more than Big Brother.

Beware the Ellisons, they're on record for Big Brother.

Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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"We believe in a world where we can have safety and privacy."

  - Flock camera feeds were set up public-facing, giving anyone on the internet access to live high-resolution feeds
  - Flock's AI does more than just read license plates. It catalogs vehicle color, make, model, bumper stickers, dents, and roof racks.
  - Police officers nationwide have abused their access to the Flock network to inappropriately track romantic partners, neighbors, and personal acquaintances
  - local police departments share Flock-captured license plate data with federal immigration agencies like ICE and CBP
  - Flock cameras have been used to track lawful citizens attending political demonstrations
  - Flock also expanded into audio surveillance (!!) before public outrage made them back down a bit

Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Flock has been useful enough in the Pacific Northwest for car thefts. I want them removed, however.

Modern car thefts are just a side effect of some terrible design decisions though. If you buy a car with a physical key required to unlock it the likelihood of it being stolen is severely reduced - it's not zero, of course, window smashing and hotwiring are still issues. But the fact that a continuously transmitted signal can be used to unlock and start a car is such a dumb idea for such a small gain in convenience.

And, let's face it: keys give good feedback. If you fumble getting in and fumble starting, you are too drunk to drive. The right friction is good.

Re: Flock CEO Apologizes for Calling Activists 'Terrorists'

#20

I have a new idea: No cameras on us. 24/7 Body Cameras on politicians, w/ audio.

The fact that body cameras can be turned off is insane to me. Most office workers need to suffer the same "constantly surveilled during work" and the stakes of their mistakes is so much drastically less than law enforcement officers.

Releasing full unredacted body camera footage continuously is a bad idea - but prosecutors and defense attorneys have been trusted with equivalently sensitive information in the past. I don't know how we lost the battle on this front and allowed them to ever be turned off.

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