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Re: Bootstrap 2.2.2 is out

#12

While Bootstrap is "great" it really needs a viable competitor. There's a tons of things that could be done better. The competitor must be really nice looking by default, responsive, use Stylus/Sass not LESS, and be modular. There isn't one today, but I hope there will be one in 2013.

> use Stylus/Sass not LESS

I really like LESS. What am I missing out on?

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.2 is out

#13

While Bootstrap is "great" it really needs a viable competitor. There's a tons of things that could be done better. The competitor must be really nice looking by default, responsive, use Stylus/Sass not LESS, and be modular. There isn't one today, but I hope there will be one in 2013.

I've been using https://github.com/thomas-mcdonald/bootstrap-sass as a SASS version of Bootstrap. It's a nice project, with native support for Compass, so no Rails dependency. ( https://github.com/thomas-mcdonald/bootstrap-sass#compass )

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.2 is out

#14

While Bootstrap is "great" it really needs a viable competitor. There's a tons of things that could be done better. The competitor must be really nice looking by default, responsive, use Stylus/Sass not LESS, and be modular. There isn't one today, but I hope there will be one in 2013.

> use Stylus/Sass not LESS I really like LESS. What am I missing out on?

I too want to know this.

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.2 is out

#15

While Bootstrap is "great" it really needs a viable competitor. There's a tons of things that could be done better. The competitor must be really nice looking by default, responsive, use Stylus/Sass not LESS, and be modular. There isn't one today, but I hope there will be one in 2013.

Zurb Foundation seems to be what you are looking for. It uses SASS and actually predates bootstrap and is being actively maintained. Its a great alternative. http://foundation.zurb.com

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.2 is out

#16

While Bootstrap is "great" it really needs a viable competitor. There's a tons of things that could be done better. The competitor must be really nice looking by default, responsive, use Stylus/Sass not LESS, and be modular. There isn't one today, but I hope there will be one in 2013.

Zurb Foundation seems to be what you are looking for. It uses SASS and actually predates bootstrap and is being actively maintained. Its a great alternative. http://foundation.zurb.com

It does use Sass, but was released after Bootstrap.

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.2 is out

#17

While Bootstrap is "great" it really needs a viable competitor. There's a tons of things that could be done better. The competitor must be really nice looking by default, responsive, use Stylus/Sass not LESS, and be modular. There isn't one today, but I hope there will be one in 2013.

> use Stylus/Sass not LESS I really like LESS. What am I missing out on?

"Sass is better on a whole bunch of different fronts, but if you are already happy in LESS, that's cool, at least you are doing yourself a favor by preprocessing."

http://css-tricks.com/sass-vs-less/

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.2 is out

#18

While Bootstrap is "great" it really needs a viable competitor. There's a tons of things that could be done better. The competitor must be really nice looking by default, responsive, use Stylus/Sass not LESS, and be modular. There isn't one today, but I hope there will be one in 2013.

> use Stylus/Sass not LESS I really like LESS. What am I missing out on?

The thing that finally pushed me off LESS was animations, and the contortions necessary to get to something even approximating DRY for some concepts.

I think it might be a result of trying to be "better CSS" instead of "a language for generating CSS".

Say you wanted to delay a slide-in-right animation for 50ms per list item. (So item 1 slides in immediately, item 2 50ms later, item 3 50ms later, etc.)

For that portion, this is what the LESS looks like:

  -animation-delay(@delay) { animation-delay: @delay; ...vendor prefixes... }
  .delay-child-animations {
    &:nth-child(2n){ .animation-delay: 50ms;  }
    &:nth-child(3n){ .animation-delay: 100ms;  }
    &:nth-child(4n){ .animation-delay: 150ms;  }
    ... more things here ...
  }
In SASS, we could do something like

  @mixin delay-child-animations($max-children: 20) {
    @for $i from 1 to $max-children {
      &:nth-child(#{$i}n){ .animation-delay: ($i - 1)*50ms;
    }
  }
References:

http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8294400/css-animations-wi... http://radiatingstar.com/css-keyframes-animations-with-less

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.2 is out

#19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Zurb Foundation seems to be what you are looking for. It uses SASS and actually predates bootstrap and is being actively maintained. Its a great alternative. http://foundation.zurb.com

It does use Sass, but was released after Bootstrap.

Bootstrap came out of Zurb, Mark worked with them and learned everything, and then when he went to Twitter he re-used a bunch of zurb to create the first version of bootstrap.

Discussion here: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4588053

Re: Bootstrap 2.2.2 is out

#20
post #7

While Bootstrap is "great" it really needs a viable competitor. There's a tons of things that could be done better. The competitor must be really nice looking by default, responsive, use Stylus/Sass not LESS, and be modular. There isn't one today, but I hope there will be one in 2013.

What about Zurb Foundation?

Zurb is definitely the way to go. It is a great product.
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