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Nuclear war survival guide reveals seven everyday items if disaster strikes

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Re: Nuclear war survival guide reveals seven everyday items if disaster strikes

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The guide itself was submitted here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48876737

There are a few editions of this guide, apparently, and the most recent is a 2022 edition, but it contains most information of the older editions but might have a newer foreword.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_War_Survival_Skills

This is the 2022 edition linked from Wikipedia: https://link.us1.storjshare.io/s/jxoqtjnsv35pbrrndvy3gifrqqo...

Here is a html version of the book that has clickable chapter links and so forth: https://www.oism.org/nwss/

Re: Nuclear war survival guide reveals seven everyday items if disaster strikes

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Stockpile whisky - you can disinfect with it, trade it, or drink it and stop caring about the Apocalypse.

A person would be better off drinking 40% ethanol than relying on it for disinfection. That way the inevitable death from bacterial infection might be a very small amount less horrible.

Re: Nuclear war survival guide reveals seven everyday items if disaster strikes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hillary Clinton was interviewed recently and she was refreshingly candid about the glaring problems with the “Obama deal” which most notably was that it did nothing to prevent Iran from amassing a large stockpile of ballistic missiles and giving support to violent factions like the Yemeni’s who you may recall used such to disrupt global trade. It was better than nothing, and maybe good, but it’s worth adding context…

Where is this interview? I Haven't heard of this. So now you're trying to equate missiles with a nuke program?

I just saw a clip, from the recent 92nd street y interview. I’m not saying missiles are nuclear weapons. I’m simply saying the JCPOA was flawed according to her. Not that she thinks it should have been repealed entirely. She argues Trump could have extended or expanded it, but of course she would say that because she wasn’t the one tasked with renegotiating it with them.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is this interview? I Haven't heard of this. So now you're trying to equate missiles with a nuke program?

The Iraq War was pushed through under the claim of preventing Iraq from obtaining Weapons of Mass Destruction, which presumably could have included nuclear weapons. The Bush administration sold the claim in part because of aluminum tubes which they claimed could be used to create ballistic missiles. Clinton, who herself voted for the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, is aware th…

No the point, as I understand it, is that with enough missiles, enforcing the JCPOA becomes impossible. Iran can dominate other regional powers, cause global suffering, decide they want to build nuclear weapons after all and not much can be done to stop them. As we are seeing, they are powerful enough now that Trump isn’t having an easy time winning, and it may even impact the midterms it’s that bad.

Re: Nuclear war survival guide reveals seven everyday items if disaster strikes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where is this interview? I Haven't heard of this. So now you're trying to equate missiles with a nuke program?

I just saw a clip, from the recent 92nd street y interview. I’m not saying missiles are nuclear weapons. I’m simply saying the JCPOA was flawed according to her. Not that she thinks it should have been repealed entirely. She argues Trump could have extended or expanded it, but of course she would say that because she wasn’t the one tasked with renegotiating it with them.

It was a good deal that constrained enrichment, allowed human inspectors to roam and legitimately raise complaint if kept from chasing leads, permitted installation of tamper resistant / tamper revealing fixed monitoring instruments.

It addressed neither missiles, late library fees, digital piracy, etc.

It was flawed in the same sense a car is flawed for not being able to pull a 820 Flexi-Coil 18 metre bar, with a 2320 tow behind Flexi-Coil airseeder across a muddy field.

( eg: outside of design scope )

Worth noting also - not just a US deal - a number of other countries had input on the deal and on inspections.

Re: Nuclear war survival guide reveals seven everyday items if disaster strikes

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Stockpile whisky - you can disinfect with it, trade it, or drink it and stop caring about the Apocalypse.

A person would be better off drinking 40% ethanol than relying on it for disinfection. That way the inevitable death from bacterial infection might be a very small amount less horrible.

Hey, you can disinfect with it 3 times to get 120%

Re: Nuclear war survival guide reveals seven everyday items if disaster strikes

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post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Iraq War was pushed through under the claim of preventing Iraq from obtaining Weapons of Mass Destruction, which presumably could have included nuclear weapons. The Bush administration sold the claim in part because of aluminum tubes which they claimed could be used to create ballistic missiles. Clinton, who herself voted for the Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002, is aware th…

No the point, as I understand it, is that with enough missiles, enforcing the JCPOA becomes impossible. Iran can dominate other regional powers, cause global suffering, decide they want to build nuclear weapons after all and not much can be done to stop them. As we are seeing, they are powerful enough now that Trump isn’t having an easy time winning, and it may even impact the midterms it’s that bad.

At the start of 2017, we were in a position where we could have negotiated another deal with Iran to limit their missile production and stockpile while keeping the JCPOA in place. Nine years later, and we're not in a position to even negotiate a durable cease fire. We could have negotiated a diplomatic solution to those ballistic missiles to buttress the JCPOA.

> Trump isn’t having an easy time winning

I've seen no indication that Trump is winning in any way.

> it may even impact the midterms it’s that bad

I'm not worried. Democrats haven't been out in any meaningful way banging the drum of affordability. They could hang $5/gal gas and $14 fast food combos on Trump and this war he started, but instead they've been beating back Democratic Socialists, declaring themselves capitalists, and extolling the virtues of Graham Platner up until about a week ago.

Re: Nuclear war survival guide reveals seven everyday items if disaster strikes

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One test I now use on survival related material, especially ones written pre-COVID, is how long does it take them before they start talking about how to cut hair. One thing we learned during COVID was a significant limitation in people's willingness to stay isolated was their hair was getting out of control. It's the exact, boring, unsexy topic that you omit if you're selling the fantasy of survival and you include i…

> One thing we learned during COVID was a significant limitation in people's willingness to stay isolated was their hair was getting out of control. It's the exact, boring, unsexy topic that you omit if you're selling the fantasy of survival and you include if you want to cover the boring, day to day logistics.

COVID wasn't really a survival situation though, and least not in the traditional sense (i.e. staying at home for long periods ordering stuff of Amazon).

In an actual survival situation, I'd suppose you hack away at your hair with a pair of scissors or a knife, because you're dirty and starving and have more important things to worry about.

Re: Nuclear war survival guide reveals seven everyday items if disaster strikes

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Stockpile whisky - you can disinfect with it, trade it, or drink it and stop caring about the Apocalypse.

A person would be better off drinking 40% ethanol than relying on it for disinfection. That way the inevitable death from bacterial infection might be a very small amount less horrible.

The key usage here is "drink" in case the humor was too subtle for ya.

"Disinfect" always works in the movies. So there.

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