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Re: Yt-Dlp Sequence Diagrams

#11

Post by perching_aix »

bt1a wrote: post #8
meindnoch wrote: post #5

Auto-generated sequence diagrams are almost always useless. This one is no different.

"Auto-generated"? As in... a defined translation from one abstraction layer to another? Disagree

A mechanistically generated diagram, i.e. a program reading in something and then emitting a diagram, following a specific algorithm.

> a defined translation from one abstraction layer to another

A solution like the aforementioned cannot reliably present a view with a raised level of abstraction, as that necessitates either making unsound assumptions, or being provided with hints (which can be wrong or expire). Just like with code (because they are code).

And so if this is indeed just a rote visualization like that, sticking to the same level of abstraction (thereby not encountering this issue), then they stipulate it is "almost certainly useless, just like they usually are".

I personally find this agreeable, but then I rarely find diagrams particularly illuminating in general, so...

Re: Yt-Dlp Sequence Diagrams

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Post by Bjartr »

bt1a wrote: post #8
meindnoch wrote: post #5

Auto-generated sequence diagrams are almost always useless. This one is no different.

"Auto-generated"? As in... a defined translation from one abstraction layer to another? Disagree

As in not authored by a human who knows which details are important and which are noise for a given level of abstraction.

Re: Yt-Dlp Sequence Diagrams

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Post by TacticalCoder »

BTW the year is 2026 and we've got LLMs, is there, at long last, an easy way to have an YouTube downloader I can run in a container (say with Podman) that actually works?

Do I need to be logged in with a Google account for it to work?

I always, since decades I want to say, ran into troubles whenever I download Youtube vids (no matter which tool I use, yt-dlp or other). It works, then doesn't anymore.

Are you simply, reliably, downloading Youtube vids? How? From a VM? From a container? From your main machine while being logged on?

P.S: congrats to the guys at Google, you sure made that hard

Re: Yt-Dlp Sequence Diagrams

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Post by amlib »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #15

BTW the year is 2026 and we've got LLMs, is there, at long last, an easy way to have an YouTube downloader I can run in a container (say with Podman) that actually works? Do I need to be logged in with a Google account for it to work? I always, since decades I want to say, ran into troubles whenever I download Youtube vids (no matter which tool I use, yt-dlp or other). It works, then doesn't anymore. Are you simply,…

You always had to keep whatever youtube video downloader you were using updated at a minimum. For a good while login cookies were only required for downloading restricted videos (whatever youtube considered 18+). Now you need half a web browser to do anything and the update cadence is even crazier.

Re: Yt-Dlp Sequence Diagrams

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Post by sampullman »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #15

BTW the year is 2026 and we've got LLMs, is there, at long last, an easy way to have an YouTube downloader I can run in a container (say with Podman) that actually works? Do I need to be logged in with a Google account for it to work? I always, since decades I want to say, ran into troubles whenever I download Youtube vids (no matter which tool I use, yt-dlp or other). It works, then doesn't anymore. Are you simply,…

Somebody is doing it, given all the ad ridden free YouTube download sites that exist.

Re: Yt-Dlp Sequence Diagrams

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Post by neves »

Yt-dlp os a powerhouse of the free internet. To break free from walled gardens, I've started to use Seal, an open source F-Droid Android app. It's just a shell over yt-dlp. Unfortunately it started to fail to download some videos. Do you have any tips for better use?

Re: Yt-Dlp Sequence Diagrams

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Post by neves »

neves wrote: post #19

Yt-dlp os a powerhouse of the free internet. To break free from walled gardens, I've started to use Seal, an open source F-Droid Android app. It's just a shell over yt-dlp. Unfortunately it started to fail to download some videos. Do you have any tips for better use?

https://github.com/JunkFood02/Seal

Link to Seal

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