Developers at Mistral AI in France are already no longer writing lines of code. The future of developer work lies in understanding the client's business in order to create a custom application tailored to their needs.
How does a Dev's job look like in a few years?
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#12Developers at Mistral AI in France are already no longer writing lines of code. The future of developer work lies in understanding the client's business in order to create a custom application tailored to their needs.
To me, that seems the rough description of a product manager!
Also something that requires heavy social skills. What will we, the vast nerd majority do?
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#13Developers at Mistral AI in France are already no longer writing lines of code. The future of developer work lies in understanding the client's business in order to create a custom application tailored to their needs.
That is what my job as a developer has always been.
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#15So based on the comments, I'm the only person who think our jobs will be diving into years-old LLM-generated code to fix it all, and laughing: "Oh my, do you all remember when the entire industry burned 5 years and b/trillions of dollars just to try to force a use case to work that wasn't even the right match for the tools?"
I'm not even trying to be snarky. I just see that LLMs already work fine in almost every other use case. Better than fine - they have been implemented and they work, and don't need much more advancement. But coders are still fighting it, coming up with more and more elaborate setups, spending more and more money, just to get to a level of coding that is passable. Not great, not better than human, just a "CRUD apps work." level of passable.
Once the exec teams stop pushing the FOMO from down on top, I think people will settle down into a much lower level of AI assistance. It will continue to be used, but we'll have it boilerplate the simple stuff out for us, while we focus on the meatier problems. And that is not all that different than pre-AI: whip the easy stuff out, then work on the hard stuff.
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#16So based on the comments, I'm the only person who think our jobs will be diving into years-old LLM-generated code to fix it all, and laughing: "Oh my, do you all remember when the entire industry burned 5 years and b/trillions of dollars just to try to force a use case to work that wasn't even the right match for the tools?" I'm not even trying to be snarky. I just see that LLMs already work fine in almost every othe…
A parallel is crypto. There are thousands of multi-million dollars projects that are now completely abandoned. It's the web otherwise this thing will look like a Chinese ghost city. AI will have a similar fate except that it seems like they are about spend orders of magnitude more money.
AI is useful as a retrieval device but not for planning/writing foundational code. Maybe UI/UX in React but for most other things it's a time bomb.
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#17Programmers will spend most of their time turning LLM vibecoded prototypes into real programs with structural integrity.
For a time this skill will be highly valued, until the snake oil takes over again.
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#18Things that I reckon will become a lot more important from a developer's perspective over the next year: - Shaping work so it is more decomposable, legible, verifiable and understandable - Property testing, formal verification (exhaustive proofs, and bounded model checking), and test verification (e.g. mutation testing) - Understanding product market fit and opportunity space - Application of product management techn…
> I see this as more or less analogous to the DevOps shift of the mid 2010s.
Ugh, I desperately need to find an exit soon.
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#19Developers at Mistral AI in France are already no longer writing lines of code. The future of developer work lies in understanding the client's business in order to create a custom application tailored to their needs.
To me, that seems the rough description of a product manager! Also something that requires heavy social skills. What will we, the vast nerd majority do?
Nerds? We are not in the 90s anymore. The stereotype of software engineers has changed dramatically (for better or worse). All my current and past colleagues are the opposite of the “nerd”: talkative, married, with kids, investing… none of them like starwars and the like
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#20Developers at Mistral AI in France are already no longer writing lines of code. The future of developer work lies in understanding the client's business in order to create a custom application tailored to their needs.
That is that commitstrip cartoon... "we'll be able to write a comprehensive spec and bam we don't need programmers anymore"
"and do you know what you call that?" "code, it's called code"